It is impossible to have better performance than the Steam Machine, because the Steam Machine doesn’t even exist yet !
Yeah, I mean… This is just “company releases Linux gaming pc” and just noting that it has a better graphics card than the Steam Machine.
Costing…how much?
I can compare a city car with a super car.
Obviously has no merit but hey: Who cares ¯\_(ツ)_/¯Costing…how much?
$1139
I mean, you will almost certainly be able to build machines that outperform the Steam Machine 2 in bang-for-buck if Valve isn’t subsidizing it, which they said that they won’t. If not at release, then a few years in, because a console-style periodic hardware release model will lag whatever’s at the bleeding edge.
The desktop I’m typing this on isn’t gonna be cheaper than the Steam Machine 2, but it is unquestionably going to be more powerful.
But that’s not gonna be what the Steam Machine is for — you could always build a DIY gaming PC, unlike with consoles. It’s an open platform. I had a media PC plugged into my TV with a TV interface card a quarter-century back. What Valve is gonna be aiming for is going to be ease of use, the “you plug it into your TV, plug it into power, turn on gamepad, play games that target Steam Machine 2” thing. That’s where consoles have been able to pick up users that haven’t done the PC.
Also the real goal with it, like with the Deck, is to set a standard for what hardware games should run well on for the next several years, and to give PC manufacturers a target for what to match or improve on.
And I definitely hope that wake from controller can get standardized as a result from this (Bluetooth LE 5.5 extension anyone?) because you’ll see other manufacturers try to build it into their machines too
Also just generally revamp Bluetooth HID profiles for latency
Also, I am pretty sure the steam machine is smaller than I was able to achieve in my efforts to make a tiny gaming PC for the living room. That kind of thing can only be done at great effort.
I mostly wanna know how much power the steam machine will need. I’ve got to invert it from 12v DC.
This is interesting; specs look pretty solid for the price. Notably this uses DDR4 ram vs. the DDR5 in the Steam Machine which, given the current… situation… probably contributes a lot to the price point seeming reasonable.
Also 600W is likely several times more power draw than the Steam Machine is aiming for, however much that might matter to someone.
600W PSU does not mean it actually uses 600W
No but you’re paying for it to have that capacity
600W with that form factor? This thing is gonna be louder than a PS4
No Ryzen 5 is more than 95W, and the 9060 is a 200W card.
They could easily get away with a 400W PSU, similar to a PS5.
$1139
outperforms steam machine
well no shit
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Good photo. Was wondering how much space it would take. While the 9060xt is significantly better than the 7600m and FSR4, that Steam Machine is beautifully compact. No rush. Still hard to decide this or that. Also the SM coming with the Steam controller is a major plus even though 8bitdo gamepads are great
Isn’t the point of the steam machine the drivers, developer optimisation, and plug and play aspect, this is just another computer.
And the HUGE software push they’re making. Plus, Valve probably welcomes anybody joining in on the form factor. This isn’t console wars, Valve isn’t Microslop or Nintendo.
It’s like the Steam Deck vs Windows handhelds debate. Don’t care if it’s faster if it isn’t as convenient as Valve’s product.
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If it can outperform the steam machine, nice The question is, is it gonna be a console-like experience? Just plug and play?
Having the most powerful hardware won’t matter at all if we can’t figure out a way to make people who aren’t tech savy be able to just sit down and play on it, without needing to know what Proton is.
The appear (AFAIK) of the Steam Machine, is this, you plug it in, grab the controller and go play, even if it doesn’t have the most top-of-the-line hardware, being hassle free is a huge win over any other. Specially given how now, the Xbox, the PlayStation and the Switch 2 are direct competition. And they’re simple for a end-user who isn’t tech savy (well… Subjective, I find the Xbox UI to be a convoluted mess)
If you install SteamOS on it, wouldn’t it be as plug-and-play as the Steam Deck?
If the hardware has the compatibility for it, then yes It probably is what they have in mind, but they could also go the route with some custom system. Unlikely but not impossible.
The issue if they go custom, is how much ground they’ll need to cover to reach SteamOS levels of plug 'n play
It depends if it ship with SteamOS or something similiar…if the user has to install it, it’s not plug and play
Better than a machine which we don’t know the performance or price of? WOW!
But seriously, yeah you’re probably gonna be able to match steam machine performance with your own build, maybe under price or over depending on your region. However, you will not be able to put it in a sub 4L case. That’s the real trick valve is pulling.
Haven’t heard of any comparisons of NUC style machines. If any can match performance of the steam machine, they have real alternative possibilities. Just dont show me a PS5 sized pc and say it can equal performance… cause yeah… I wouldn’t dobt that, but that’s nothing special. Call me when you got it in a 16cm cube.The author is obviously not a fan of valve. The bias comes through in their word choice
The 9060 is very low performing… It’s that what the steam machine has as well?
I have a 2080ti with a higher passmark score, and that thing is from 2018.
the Steam Machine has a 7600m lol it’s really weak, with 8GB VRAM
I kind of want I kind of need
I admit to hoping it was more… nix?
