Summary
Bernie Sanders and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez condemned Donald Trump and Elon Musk at a packed Arizona rally, accusing them of harming working-class Americans and promoting oligarchy.
Sanders denounced corporate CEOs as “major criminals” exploiting workers, while Ocasio-Cortez called for stronger Democratic leadership.
Rallygoers urged Ocasio-Cortez to challenge Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer after he supported a Republican funding bill.
The rally, part of Sanders’ “Stop Oligarchy” tour, follows criticism of the Democratic Party’s weak response to Trump’s agenda and features further events in Colorado and Arizona.
I was there. It was awesome seeing so many people. I prefer Mutualism over Democratic Socialism, but like AOC said there, “no matter if you disagree with me on a few things, if you are willing to fight for someone you don’t know, you are welcome here.”
I really hope this “AOC takes over the Democratic Party and saves America” arc has a happy ending
She’s a young, outspoken woman of color. Old white people would never let it happen, even if half are in a nursing home mainlining Fox News straight into their frontal cortex and can barely walk on their own.
A lot of folk are still recovering from Obama being elected twice.
At least Bernie looks familiar to them, so the hatred will be tampered.
I unfortunately have to agree with you. With how the Harris election results went, i don’t think people are ready for a woman president, let alone a brown one. The median American is too stupid, racist, and sexist.
Maybe, people also didn’t want a neolib candidate who had no populist appeal. She didn’t acknowledge legitimate grievances of the voters. The Democrat party should’ve held primaries, but they just put Harris in at the end. There’s many factors beyond sexism.
Actually the groups that swung the election for Trump were young men (HUGE swing), and immigrants (despite voting against their own interests and pulling the ladder up behind them for future immigration).
Senior men were more likely to vote for Kamala than young men.
We gotta figure out how to De-Tate people
Not really. There wasn’t a huge swing of people switching from Democrats or independents to vote for Trump. Those target groups just decided not to vote. In other words, it’s not like more people are relating to Trump’s messages, but it’s people not relating with either’s message and feeling apathetic. This is why Trump bashing isn’t helping. There needs to be genuine improvement of the Democratic party itself.
I wish you Americans would deal with this crap before I end up getting drafted to defend my country from the orange porcine dementia patient.
What do you suggest Americans do? Say someone is a working class American who didn’t vote for Trump. They can barely make ends meet and have no power or political sway. What does that person do? I’m not trying to be funny, I’m simply interested in your take and perspective as a non-American.
And while we’re at it, why don’t people in China have the freedom to speak out against their government and not have censorship? Maybe if they all just got together in a big public square and really protested, I bet that would end really well.
This is some actual leadership looks like. It’s not something that commes around every 4 years around election time trying to triangulate a voting block.
No it’s not. They’re not trying to build a third party or engage in electoral reform.
Here’s what I’d like someone to explain: suppose we have four (or even eight) years of president AOC.
Everything is going dandy. Palestine is recognized. Student loans are discharged. Maybe we’re even on track to get a public option. Etc. We get everything we want.
It seems like it only takes 1 (ONE) election cycle for Dems / Liberals / Progressives to stay home and be like “naaah, I just don’t feel it this year…Not gonna vote” to undo everything. Dems have had a slim majority in the house for the last 20 years. SC is one seat away from disaster.
We are only in month #2 of Orange Fucks presidency and look at all the damage he’s done. We’re back to square one. Nothing changes. I’m starting to get blackpilled about the whole democratic experiment. Someone give me some perspective please… I just don’t trust the American voter any more. The only consistency is Maga will always show up to vote no matter what piece of shit is written on the ballot. Dems / Liberals / Progressives: we need to move mountains to get any political coalitions or clout to achieve anything.
If people get what they want they will come voting out in droves.
We must get rid of gerrymandering and the electoral college. Nothing will ever change until that shit is gone. Until then, rinse and repeat.
If the DNC wants to continue to exist they need to give up on the idea of being the good conservative party. That’s why their base doesn’t show up. You can only be held hostage for so long before you just give up and let happen what will happen.
If they would actually pass real reform and genuinely try to make the lives of the worst off better, they’d never have to worry about the republicans again.
I agree. They should stop being republican lite. It’s frustrating for sure.
But look at it this way: the Dems passed boring ok policies. Nothing spectacular. ACA? Sure. It’s something. But on one hand we have lame attempts at passing reform and general policies that do a little progress. On the other hand: oligarchs tearing down everything to build a technocratic crypto fascist state. And even that is not enough to get people to vote. So, we can’t get people to vote in general. That’s the issue. We could have Cheguevara bringing the revolution to America or whatever, but these people don’t show up. Obama was charming and bam, Trump undoes everything. Where are the safeguards?
Republicans on the other hand, have the anticrhrist on the ballot and they all pull up to the booth. Every. Time.
People have decided they want a quick death rather than a long, drawn out collapse. You want to change that, try fixing things.
I do believe the path to growth is to fail faster. It just sucks when the fail is systemic and drawn out.
The boomers will die eventually, and with them, their antiquated ideas.
The world is now aware billionaires are a huge issue and countries around the world are taking more precautions to prevent what is happening to the USA from happening in their countries.
Religious fascists will always be an issue, but we can combat that with education, taxing churches, and persecuting people like Alex Jones, Joe Rogan, and Elon Musk.
That’s why they all rallied behind Trump-- they know their days are numbered and the people want their fat heads in the guillotines.
You’re banking on a generation of red-pilled fascists to fix the problem? Social progress is not a guarantee when older generations die out.
Your “solutions” rely on the Rule of Law and Separation of Powers, both of which were dissolved after Trump v. United States.
You’re about ten years behind what’s actually happening.
In the United States, maybe.
The rest of the world is doing much better, especially since people are studying what is happening to the USA.
I wrote a different comment you can look up, but to combat red pilling, we all need to get more involved in youth programs and make ourselves available to growing adults and help provide structure & guidance.
I love how Trumps gets some of these folks all riled up and by just acting normally.
This is that usual gaslighting rhetoric from the right. Someone reminded of the Sartre quote about anti-semites recently. It’s so applicable to how the right twists facts and makes absurd over-generalizations. It’s the epitome of acting in bad faith.
“Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”
Lol, caring about anything but money and power is so cringe, amirite? Imagine caring about libraries, museums, and people living their final years in dignity. Couldn’t be me.
Jesus, if Trump’s behavior is normal to you, you must have a lot of childhood trauma to unpack. I’m so sorry for whatever you went through. Have you considered therapy?
TBF normal for tmurp is refusing rental applications from people based on race and making unsolicited unwelcome physical advances on women while claiming to be a victim of descrimination.
They don’t like being screwed like you do. What has that man done to make your life better?
AOC 2028
AOC 2025