Democrats spent the last year asking where their Joe Rogan was. Hasan Piker is one of the few left-wing figures with the audience they covet — but the party is deeply hostile to the spontaneity and independence that make figures like him appealing.

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    Ah yes, the shady and shitty democratic party is refusing to endorse a shady and shitty person. Missed opportunity. Tho i see why because the democratix party is trying to appeal to centrists while hasan is trying to appeal to more left leaning audiences while people who actually want change and take sacrifices for it dont get a voice. Last time i commented something like this i got downvoted to onlivion cause people refuse to believe hasan is not an actual leftist just a china shill(china being a very much capitalist country).

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      Still being downvoted without any constructive criticisms, I see.

      It’s probably the china thing, people suck up to china for no reason too.

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        Is there a stipulation that one must leave “constructive” criticism before one downvotes?

        No one owes you or the guy you’re commenting to anything. Stop thinking your argument is somehow proven if you get no or negative engagement. That’s just fucking stupid.

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          I agree with this actually as the original commenter lol. Downvotes are to signal disagreement, the same way you dont have to comment under anything you like, you dont have to comment under something you dislike. Its still funny that with 9 downvotes nobody has engaged while with 9 upvotes they would usually. I guess the one counterintuitive thing is people would think downvoting someone means you disagree which creates room for discussion, while positive engagement actually seems to create more discussion which may actually be a good thing. Also i speak of hasan in a very offensive manner in my comment(which i did because ive really had enough of him) which people will alsl engage less with. If i said “i dont like hasan” people would try to change my opinion but if i said “hope hasan gets thanos snapped” theres no opinion to change, thats dead set.

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            While I don’t agree with your opinion on the situation I appreciate your overall composure here.

            I will share that, from my perspective, he speaks for a far more radicalized and younger left voice (read: that does not mean I am arguing against the reasoning behind that radicalization nor against radicalization either) which is a voice that crucial to be heard.

            The left in America, overall, has capitulated far too much to the center for the sake of ‘stability’ and yet, here we are, with a populist radical conservative destroying the foundations we need to progress forward.

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              Yeah i just dont get why hes treated like a saint. He seems like a pretty bad person, but a usefull one. I completely agree that politics need to change in the us, in the whole world actually, but people like him are useful to gether and teach masses in the beginning but after that are a bad influence.