• SpikesOtherDog@ani.social
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    1 day ago

    Windows 11 is not based on a single unified UI framework. Instead, it uses a mix of legacy Win32 components, UWP elements, modern WinUI layers, and web-based technologies like WebView2 and React.

    I am reading this as MMC snap-ins and control panel. There is no other alternative to manage these settings outside of PowerShell.

    Also, what idiot decided that only one settings window is allowed open at one time? Sometimes I would like to be in Windows update, power settings, Ethernet settings, and printer settings all at once.

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      I hate how the settings app is taking over control panel entries to make them worse and show me the original control panel window after going down 3 levels because the stupid fucks can’t design UI for shit.

      Thankfully, you can still get to a lot of them if you know the name of the control panel applet.

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          Ncpa.cpl > right click > properties and go from there is my main method.

          Otherwise, Win+X > G (devmgmt.msc) and look at the network adapter in device manager

          Other than the win+x chord, that works on just about every version I have to touch

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              15 hours ago

              Heh, I’m a windows sysadmin, so I use them often enough to know it from memory. I’m almost entirely Linux at home these days as well

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        IKR? I spent multiple hours looking for GPU switching whitelist because some moron in MS put it under “Display” instead of GPU settings or Power Management

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        24 hours ago

        Fighting with their shitty “new” UI trying to find the old Sound UI to fix an issue that their new UI doesn’t even have a toggle for really chapped my ass.

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        Apparently there’s a ton of CBT involved in doing anything in the new Settings app, so it makes sense to only bring over the things you absolutely have to and then send people to the old control panel for the rest.

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          Windows 7 was IMO decent. Didn’t deviate too much from the old one, and you could still reconfigure it to have same UI style as Windows XP.

          Now if you want similar UI get yourself Linux with KDE desktop

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            That’s the thing… 7 is Vista. Just with a new UI.

            Windows 2000 is XP. XP just has a new interface. 7 and XP are for consumers. 2000 and Vista are more like server editions (even the pro versions.)

            Vista has Aero but also the classic server(windows NT/2000) UI. Even modern server versions have essentially the same classic control panels. And server versions don’t have all the extra bullshit(7 wasn’t so bad yet, but 10 and 11 are). That’s why I prefer to run Windows server as my desktop.

            What made Vista/7 great were the under the hood(kernel) improvements, particularly to the threading model. They made safe handling non-negotiable. This retroactively fixed countless programs and improved overall system stability significantly.

            There’s really no other major differences between Vista and 7 besides aesthetics(the shell.)

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              Right, but none of that is enshitification or contradicts that 7 was an improvement over vista in most every way. As you stated, there were numerous kernel improvements going to 7, as well as improvements on locking logic, memory access and (let’s not ignore the most obvious) driver support. The two operating systems were very similar, but saying there are no major differences other than aesthetic is not accurate. There were less major differences than xp > vista or 7 > 8, but it was a bit more than just aesthetics.

              Also, fuck Server 2016. All my homies hate Server 2016…

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            4 hours ago

            Win98 good

            Windows ME bad

            WindowsXP good

            Vista bad

            Win7 good (maybe peak)

            Win8 bad

            Win10 OK?

            Win11 bad

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      They decided it because there are so many duplicate Settings pages controlling the same thing.

      There are over 12 different places to change USB power save settings

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      Also, what idiot decided that only one settings window is allowed open at one time?

      Microsoft engineers were worried that people missed the joys of MS-DOS and having only one application running at once. Next up, will be the return of base memory versus expanded memory versus extended memory. This ends when they devolve Windows to prove Bill Gates right that 640kB should be enough memory for anyone.