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Ah. The anti-Semitic card.
Look here. Being of an opposing opinion with the government of Israel, has nothing to do with opposing Jewism.
It is the same with disliking the CCP and liking the Chinese. I care for the people but not for their arsehole countries / governments.
Exactly
Ah. The anti-Semitic card.
They could use some new cards, they’ve worn that one out.
They’ve playing the “few weeks before Iran has nukes” card for 30 years and in the end someone took the bait. You just need the right kind of player at the table and that worn out card still can win the game.
They might as well get that card glued to the table with how often they try to play it
Which other countries has Spain recently withdrawn their ambassadors from?
If it’s only Israel, then an accusation of antisemitism has a reason.
After looking a bit, Spain withdrew their ambassador from Argentina for something petty. Also from Nicaragua after they had complained about Spanish colonial attitudes.
Of course Spain also did shit like revoke diplomatic status of the Flemish ambassador over supporting independence for Catalonia.
So yeah, it looks like Spain is still all into their imperialism regarding Latin America, and of course keep the Basques and Catalans under their thumb.
Only one of those countries is guilty of genocide. Strange that you didn’t mention that.
If you have to go that far back, you’re not a serious person.
The actions of former governments in Spain are not the actions of the current government of Spain.
Spain is not allowed to criticise genocide because of something that happened in the middle ages? Are you serious?
If they did this to a Christian nation, would it be anti Christian? Or anti Muslim for a Muslim country?
Israel’s actions aren’t derived from being Jewish.
The difference is that there’s only one Jewish state.
Judaism is also a religion, but Jews are not just a religious group. They are an ethnicity and nation first. Lots of Jews are secular or atheists.
If you attack Ireland, its anti Irish more than anti catholic.
Israel‘s actions are derived from wanting to secure the nation state for the Jewish people. The reason Israel is in the Levant and Jerusalem is very much derived from Jewish history, culture, religion, and identity.
Iran has threatened to destroy Israel for decades and has actively been working on that goal.
Securing a nation state for Jewish people at the expense of the Palestinians who have been living in the area for millennia.
This Jewish nation state was secured by colonial settler Jews not native to the region migrating to the region and taking land for themselves around a century ago after the collapse of the Ottoman empire. They are still to this day expanding their state by stealing the Palestinian land.
The hatred of Israel by its neighbors is not for no reason and it is not because they are Jews. The Irish were also not fans of the British colonising them, neither were the native people of the Americas when their land was stolen by European settlers. Israel is just another case of European settlers stealing land and causing trouble where they don’t belong.
Excusing wars of conquest, ethnic cleansing, and genocide as “wanting to secure a nation state for one ethnicity” is quite literally the Nazi playbook.
Seems like we got a little Jeffrey islander over here
Fuck that yes it is.
Have you read the Old Testament?
Based Spain tbh
Well at least Spain has the balls to stand for humanity. My country is being a 'lil bitch about it again. Bloody politicians that are spineless.
Spain has conscience
Just like when there was a big flu about 100 years ago. The world made fun of them for taking action and decided to name the flu after them.
Good. Now expel the US ambassador and Iran will allow Spanish oil through the Straits of Hormuz
Iran doesn’t actually have the capacity to do that. They’re trying to mine the waters and they have no naval power to secure safe passage. The reality is that even if a country did comply with Iran’s demands, there’s a very good chance that the ship will get hit anyway by some rogue regional commander or some random mine.
Keep in mind, previous administrations were well aware of this scenario which is why they didn’t whack the mullah regime in this way even though they could’ve easily done it. The current situation can only be achieved by an idiot who lacks the ability to understand the consequences of their actions like Trump.
They’re trying to mine the waters
absolute lie that Iran has no need to do at this time. They have full drone control over the straights/Gulf and can sink any ship at any time. Blew up 3 last night. The closer it passes by Iran the easier.
Most credible news agencies are reporting that they already started mining waters. Their goal is to close the strait, not control it. They can’t compete with America or Israel in air or naval power, so this is their alternative of applying pressure without having military superiority.
news is extremely stupid as a result of perpetual propaganda/lie machine. They can say your absurdities either to promote illusion of winning, the US started bombing civilian small boats and there needed an excuse, and 40 years ago that was strategy.
They can’t compete with America or Israel in air or naval power, so this is their alternative of applying pressure without having military superiority.
They 100% still have the power to control the Straights with supreme drone control and will use the power to selectively allow friendly shipping as they were doing yesterday. and your comment is pure stupidity if not purposeful lie.
3 people downvoted my original correction. Stop your ignorance by quitting your media.
news is extremely stupid as a result of perpetual propaganda/lie machine.
But you’re just dismissing evidence, which then makes claims impossible to verify. If you don’t trust multiple reputable news organizations reporting the same events, then what exactly do you trust to get updates on world events?
They 100% still have the power to control the Straights with supreme drone control and will use the power to selectively allow friendly shipping as they were doing yesterday. and your comment is pure stupidity if not purposeful lie.
Reiterating your claim and then claiming me stupid doesn’t prove me wrong or you right, it just shows that you lack substance. Both the old and new Khamenei stated the same strategy, which is to completely close down the strait to apply pressure on other country to apply pressure on the US and Israel to stop their attacks.
Iran will only mine the straights after it is on life support. Controlling straights is within its capability with drones/missiles and what is best for Iran’s economy at expense of other regional economies. 100%. end. Lying pig fuckers telling you otherwise should make you as upset as it makes me.
The current situation can only be achieved by an idiot who lacks the ability to understand the consequences of their actions like Trump.
Or by someone who couldn’t care less, because his rich buddies can now charge exorbinant prices and also has a new source for oil in Venezuela, which they can also sell for exorbitant prices.
All that olive oil has to go somewhere.
In the gates of straights of hormuz being open game, it is reported that Iran has made a blanket offer to countries expelling both Israel and US ambassadors to get a free pass. The normal process when you withdraw your embassador is that “enemy” must withdraw as well. You just need to ask Trump about whether he approves of Spain’s action against Israel to get removal of Spain’s ambassador to US, and then free stuff from Gulf for Spain, unless the US/Israel bombs their ships.
My understanding is the current PM of Spain, Pedro Sanchez, is incredibly unpopular in the country and is pretty much universally hated. National polls put his party, PSOE, at just 26% support. He is consistently losing to the conservative party, PP, and the hard right party, VOX, is quickly catching up to both. There’s a very good chance that the right wing parties are going to win the next general election in 2027 and form a majority coalition. The right wing parties, especially VOX, are very much pro Israel and against everything Sanchez does. So there’s a good chance that all this good will towards Palestine is going to be reversed next year if he and his party fail to maintain their seats.
Are we believing in polls again after they have been consistently wrong for the last decade? Almost as stupid as believing polls a year and a half out from a general election means something, like reading tea leaves at this stage. The incumbent is never popular at this point, extreme views at this point tend to temper at the polling booth, especially since the Spanish economy is doing well.
The Spanish public are still massively anti Israel due to all of their genocide and everything.
and they’re massively against the US, especially as Trump has tried to attack Spain
When have the polls been wrong? The polls have been pretty damn accurate every time. Any electoral differences within the margin of error or due to some institutional technicalities. You’ll need something truly extreme to shift the trends, otherwise this is the likely outcome. The only instance of this that I remember is the Canadian conservatives were poised to win a landslides because Canada universally hated Trudeau, but then Trump threatened to invade and annex Canada and that caused a change in the voters. I don’t forsee something like that happening in Spain.
Vox is a minority party, and are not going to win the general. The danger is only they’d be put into a coalition with the center right party, PP.
And that’s looking much less likely - Sanchez and the center-left aren’t overly popular, but opposition to the Iran War and the US in general is massively popular. Vox is the only party that’s been dumb enough to support Trump over Spain (ironic for supposed nationalists), and it’s going to cost them. Even the remnants of the Falange are breaking with them on this.
If PP wins, Vox is 100% going to be in the coalition. Once they’re in coalition, they will have great sway over policy. At that point it doesn’t really matter what the people say. The parties just push their agendas regardless. That’s why Sanchez and his government are so unpopular. It would be standard, as per the history of Spain’s past governments, for the new conservative government to continue that trend.
Sanchez was already polling ahead of the PP and Vox prior to the Iran War - https://www.theolivepress.es/spain-news/2026/02/19/surprise-polling-reveals-left-wing-pedro-sanchezs-psoe-holds-10-point-lead-over-pp/.
And his opposition to Trump, while Vox was eager to lick his boots, is a big plus here.
This is not true the PSOE has not overtaken PP in the polls since 2022.
https://www.politico.eu/europe-poll-of-polls/spain/
Vox has climbing up for so long now that they might surpass PSOE and become the second biggest party in the country. If they form a coalition with PP then it’s over. The poll you cited to be an outlier in the data.
Actually in the very article you posted, the biggest issue to people is housing followed by immigration. Sanchez just adopted a law giving residency to half a million illegal immigrants permanent residency despite it being an unpopular move. Consider how this is both Vox and PP forte, you know that the propaganda they’ll run is going to be historic. I have a very hard time seeing Sanchez and PSOE winning the election. If the right wing coalition wins then Spain is going to look a lot more Italy’s or Germany’s current governments.
Noone expects the Spanish Inquisition!
