• Cherry@piefed.social
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    6 days ago

    I feel like I wanna walk away from the internet for my personal life.

    The second problem is just how much has moved online for example processing documents (your passport etc) same as when you have issues there’s no number to ring the store.

    So it’s not like we are totally able to. We need to turn it back to how it was. They said use the internet because it made life efficient. We need to take that back.

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      This has been a long time coming, a perfect example of the frog in in the pot; well, the water is boiling now.

      I will not comply with any of this. No website or service or app or app store is getting my ID. I know I wont be the only one, and the system has removed so many manual ways of doing things that those of us who refuse will bring the system to a grinding halt. It will not be easy and life will be made more difficult for us, but it will also be for them.

      We must all resist this in every way we can.

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        It’s gonna have to be that way. I saw something here the other day saying they couldn’t check a parcel delivery without an app. Someone suggested emailing daily for an update. I aspire to be that petty.

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      Be the vanguard. It will take groups of people intentionally trying to live disconnected to figure out a way and have businesses start supporting it. The internet is becoming a liability as much as an asset.

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      I had to have a friend help me because a company I bought from only did customer support through Instagram.

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    The nudge at Norway in the end is a bit strange. They oppose enshitification. Age checks could be part of that but I wouldn’t say it is a given. I’d rather look at the Norwegian government’s stance on privacy in the internet, not sure what it is.

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      I hate the idea of age checks, but OS is the next best thing if they don’t share the information beyond. In truth it is pointless other than tracking people.

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        “If”

        They will. Once the age check at an OS level is implemented, the next level is to enforce that this check then use a verification service. And then to make this information available to sites upon access.

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          “Once everyone has a credit card they will ban cash so that every transaction can be tracked”

          “Once every phone has GPS they will make it mandatory to send your location to the government at all times.”

          “Once everyone has a car they will make walking illegal”

          “Once everyone has an ID they will make it mandatory to scan it on every step”

          “If you let gays get married people will marry their pets next”

          Do those thing ever come true at all? Other than US being a fascist state run by corporations, did any country managed to pull off this slippery slope type trick? From what I see people either consent to being tracked in exchange for likes on social media or governments simply push mass face renegotiation and tracking (like in UK) without any sort of “step by step, boiling frog” type bullshit.

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              I mean at least the cars thing is pretty legitimately true.

              Only in US. Many things are fucked up in US for many different reasons. People support it because of brainwashing. It’s not slipped trough without anyone noticing.

  • Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works
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    I’m so sick of hearing about this, and seeing people who don’t want to read get upset.

    This is preemptively combating future federal crackdown by allowing Californians to TELL THE OS ANY BIRTH DATE THEY Want. No ID, no pictures of faces.

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      I’m tired of people falling for this kind of shit every single fucking time.

      Authoritarianism is never passed through a bill overnight. It’s one step in the wrong direction after another, multiplied N times.

      This is a step in the wrong direction. After that you’re one step away from “improving the verification” and you would reject that step only if you have nothing bad to hide.

      Do you remember when it was only a few cameras to evaluate their efficiency? Now they’re everywhere and are to use AI for behavior assessment and face recognition.

      It’s the same pattern every fucking time!

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        Authoritarianism is never passed through a bill overnight. It’s one step in the wrong direction after another, multiplied N times.

        Can you give me an example, please? There are many authoritarian countries in the world. Can you tell me how they were created in many small steps?

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      Didn’t read I guess? This goes beyond the Californian bill. The NY bill specifically does not allow this.

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        This specific article opens with the California bill being mentioned:

        “The top line of California’s Assembly Bill No. 1043 says: “AB 1043, Wicks. Age verification signals: software applications and online services.” It was approved last October, but it’s hit the headlines this week. In brief:”

        Sorry if you live in NY, but I’m sick of seeing CA dragged through the mud. That’s my beef here.

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    The only way this can be implemented at the OS level (not the vendor level) is to put in whatever date you want. That includes any notion of scanning “IDs”.

    If you want to setup a kid’s account on a phone or pc, then you have the control. If they are smart enough to do it themselves, then hey- don’t hold them back.

    My immediate concern is giving sites additional fingerprinting material. The OS better not give away an actual birthdate- when they can option for adult/not-adult, etc. Next concern is moving the age verification to a corporation, at which point the dystopia is real.

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      Next concern is moving the age verification to a corporation, at which point the dystopia is real.

      The state is bad enough. Selling us off to a subsidiary will be just another insult.

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    A direct result of libs endlessly crying for state control of the internet.

    Enjoy your zionist TikTok and state-controled Linux!

    Liberalism <—> Fascism.

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      It’s not that they will get it on it, it will be you can’t access your bank account etc. Without it. Whixh probably means you can’t lie either