French President Emmanuel Macron has urged Europe to assert itself on the world stage, saying it is time to start acting like a “power”.
In the face of growing threats from China, Russia and now the US, he told a group of European newspapers that the continent faced a “wake-up call”.
"Are we ready to become a power? This is the question in the field of economy and finance, in defence and security, and in our democratic systems.
“In another era we might have said it is the moment to ‘assume our majority’,” he said ahead of an EU summit in Brussels later this week.
Indeed we should. So long as this doesn’t mean that we move towards being isolationists, imperialists or Nazi’s.
You guys do have a bit of a habit with those things…
The first thing a Global Power Europe does is invade and colonize North Africa.
Again?
I need to rewatch that show
you are already imperialists.
just don’t mess with overt fascism again.
That means cutting ties with Israel and the Zionist oligarchs trying to implement mass surveillance. They don’t seem to understand that basic reality though because they keep trying to force the digital ID through Zionist Larry Ellisons company Oracle onto their populace.
Does Europe have any power? If yes, then Ukraine is the perfect place to demonstrate it. Imagine how powerful 1 million artillery shells per month would look. A hundred tanks and planes per month would look powerful too. Thousand missiles per month might send the powerful message too.
Talking and urging isn’t powerful.
The problem with eu is 27 different nations who have their own agendas and goals and mostly everyone wants to keep it that way. Unlike russia and china and soon usa, EU is a democracy and in a democracy talking and urging is necessary. Its a shame that it’s come to this but im hoping that eu becomes a federation or something like that to maybe make it a bit more efficient and keep up / repel the others
I think the better way is a federation but not for everything. Only for diplomacy, defense and little more. At least as a first step. That way there’s no possibility of having an uberpressident that can do the same Trump is doing.
Essentially, united on foreign policy but not domestic (barring stuff like human rights)? Superficially it seems sensible enough.
I’m not against talking. I just point out that it is a shame that most activities are limited to talking.
Well you are right and thats why also Macron is right
Ok prove it by stopping Russia from slaughtering your own fucking neighbor
The rest of Europe is circling Ukraine like a wake of vultures
But were are they going to buy cheap gas?
Explanation: France is one of the biggest importer of Russian gas in EU, right after Putin allies Hungary and Slovakia.
Algeria.
do we have pipes from there yet?
There are already puppies from Algeria to Spain.
I know how much the French hate Macron (with good reasons), but you can’t really argue against these points. Some things gotta happen. Federilization, another voting system etc. Otherwise EU will be undermined and destroyed by the superpowers and become a lot of small versailstates. We cant find in this world, when bound on hands and feet by a few orbans here and there…
This is like telling Lemmy US leftists that they need to start reinforcing their communities and getting social and start grassroots movements to get better representation in their states.
It’s a great message, but the mob is too varied and complacent to actually treat the situation as dire as it really is.
He’s right.
They need to focus on making every European nation a nuclear power. You can’t trust the US when we’re on our second consecutive brain-damaged president in a row.
They need to focus on making every European nation a nuclear power.
The power of nuclear weapons comes from being used in a retaliation strike. For that a submarine is needed. Soon space weapons are needed to disable the counter-measures.
Just 10 bombs and 10 bombers is not enough.
would you give hungary the bomb?
Under which conditions? That they have submarines?
I wanted to reply this to @FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world, sorry
Problem is - if you look at how “World Powers” behave, do you really wanna live in such countries?
Which Europeans would just love to invade neighbors like Russia and USA?
Which Europeans would love to deregulate their countries in order to enrich elites like USA?
Or perhaps which Europeans would love to live under state surveillance while their country buys out foreign infrastructure like China?
Can we put him in VdL’s place once he is done in France? He would make a great President of Europe.
Why is China always perceived as a threat?
Not all threats are military. China is the economic threat but it also has military might.
EDIT: From the article.
"Are we ready to become a power? This is the question in the field of economy and finance, in defence and security, and in our democratic systems.
Because they like imperialism. All the imperialistic superpowers are a threat to humanity.
They’re wealthy, but not white
The real answer.
They are a threat to Europe’s manufacturing/industrial sectors. In the US, China carries out propaganda/destabilization campaigns; not sure if they do much of that in Europe… Looks like China is involved with AfD (several AfD members have been arrested for espionage), so they are probably trying to destabilize Europe too.
This very hard. Europe down in recent years. Usa is dont care Europe. Rising far right population. Well very diffucult job.
I really like Macron in his foreign policy mode, it just a shame he pissed the bed by opening a loophole that will be abused if ever an amoral president gets in power.
I lived in Strasbourg during the 2018 Christmas terrorist attack. French gendarmerie kicked ass. Europe needs a standing army. Go build one.
It’s less about being a power. The British Empire was “A Power”. The US is “A Power”. Russia has been “A Power” and wants people to think it still is. China is “A Power”.
Unless you use it to the benefit of the people, it’s just posturing.
EU leaders are waking up slowly. When they finally wake up and start acting Ukraine will be part of Russia and Greenland part of US.
