A prince, an ambassador, senior diplomats, top politicians. All brought down by the Jeffrey Epstein files. And all in Europe, rather than the United States.

The huge trove of Epstein documents released by the U.S. Department of Justice has sent shock waves through Europe’s political, economic and social elites — dominating headlines, ending careers and spurring political and criminal investigations.

Former U.K. Ambassador to Washington Peter Mandelson was fired and could go to prison. British Prime Minister Keir Starmer faces a leadership crisis over the Mandelson appointment. Senior figures have fallen in Norway, Sweden and Slovakia. And, even before the latest batch of files, Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor, brother of King Charles III, lost his honors, princely title and taxpayer-funded mansion.

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    I will say, that even en the EU (political zone) the files didn’t do as much as they should have. What they revealed, besides the horrific abuses, is the level of political meddling of a certain side to bring al right leaders in position of power (see the Steve Bannon records on the lists).

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    Yeah, I notice they’ve only “toppled” centre-right parties though, with far-right parties waiting in the wings.

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    Is that what we call a fallout these days? A couple of fall guys here and there and a prince who dug his own hole with that moronic BBC interview and only lost his title? Gtfo

    I’m not satisfied at all. I expect governments to fall, people to go to proper prison (not resorts like Gislaine), institutions to change.

    I expect revelations about the role of all the intelligence agencies involved and subsequent reforms.

    Who was JE working for? Say it out loud for people to hear.

    Why was he blackmailing all these people?

    How many like him are out there right now doing the same thing?

    What decisions were made by all these compromised people?

    Why isn’t Andrew being tried?

    Why is nobody being tried?

    Where’s the compensation for the victims?

    I didn’t read the article but if it’s supposed to make us feel good that Europe is doing things, well it isn’t.

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    I love that the toppling of the top figure of prince Andrew was… No more free house, now your family has to secretly pay for your living with tax payer money instead of it being out in the open.

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      This is the theme of almost all of the “toppling”. Mostly they’ve just… resigned. They probably keep all the perks, and then take up a corporate advisor position once there’s less heat.

      Headlines like this make it sound like there’s been real impact beyond generating articles about a few of the more public figures. But reading article, it’s really just a few politicians and bureaucrats resigning. Mandelson’s firing was already months ago. The investigation into a former Norwegian PM sounds like that’s as harsh as it’s got so far for politicians this time. And nothing except one law firm board member resigning for private companies?

      They’re all getting away with it, and all the victims get is a hundred headlines about Musk being named in the files, and having their lives endangered from the terrible Don-centric redaction.

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    Trump, too, has repeatedly faced questions about his ties to Epstein. Neither he nor Clinton has ever been accused of wrongdoing by Epstein’s victims.

    Read: the secret service are really doing an amazing job. They are clearly the best most competent agency if they can keep their disgusting reprobate leaders out of the mud. Bill may have been balls deep, but Trump is up to his puffy little eyeballs in this shit. And they’re all just la de da wandering around scot free. Great job USSS!

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    The Norwegian Royal family is in complete shambles.

    The Crown Princess has been implicated in the Epstein files and her son (before being wed into royalty), is currently in a very public trial for rape and sexual misconduct.

    Let it burn.

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      Despite the apparent rise in republican sentiment and the unusual prime ministerial intervention, the dial hasn’t moved on the status of the monarchy among Norway’s wider political class. In a strange coincidence, a vote that takes places every four years in parliament on making Norway a republic was held on Tuesday. Just 26 MPs voted in favour of getting rid of the monarchy, against 141 who voted to keep it. Support was in fact lower than the last time a vote took place, in June 2022, when 35 voted in favour of a republic. The measure requires a two-thirds majority to pass.

      Shame people that can do something about it don’t care.

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    The elites are so fucked up. They really think they are something better than the people.

    From my pov the parallels to the kings and Queens of feudalism are just to strong. We need powerful rules to cut down power of individuals not just politicians. We need to trim billionaires, trim their money and their influence.

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      The elites isn’t the main problem. It is that we put narcissistic sociopath in power because of our tendencies to follow the group and vote because of the party we usually vote for instead of looking at the program.

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        Who do you think influences the masses to vote this way, and who put people like trump in the position to be elected?

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          Except that they’re not putting anywhere near the amount of effort I’d hope they would need to influence people. Look at how awful Trump is, how openly disgusting he is, and yet them just saying “no that’s fake actually” is enough.

          People like these awful things and they want to be “influenced” so they can pretend, amongst themselves mostly, that they were fooled.

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            Yeah, because they’ve been doing so for decades. Most of what’s happening today would likely not have been accepted 30-40 years ago, but people have been desensitized by constant, subtle and not so subtle influencing.

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          Surprise: another narcissistic sociopath. Themself in power because if other narcissistic asshole. You can go quite far like that, but will always end up with masses that vote for parties as if they were the local baseball team.

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            Turns out billionaires are mostly also narcissistic sociopaths. And they control the media where people get there information from. So there is a high probability for people’s actions to be manipulated by those billionaire-censored information. You can not expect everyone to spend there intellect, energy and time to comprehend these systems. The people are not the problem. The problem is the billionaire controlled system. People will change if the system changes.

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              There are still reliable medias that are free from billionaires. But that suppose to pay for them, because without a billionaire with an agenda to keep them afloat, who will?

              Personally, I support multiple of them (after looking into them, of course), even when not aligned with my own world views.

              You know what, let’s start a community to list them all. I think this is the best way to work against the billionaire press monopoly.

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    If I were a conspiracy theorist I would say that the release of the Files were redacted in such a way to topple political adversaries in Europe. I mean that goal is part the Heritage Project 2025.

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        I’m just waiting for the Michael Scarn - Dwigt case where something like Domald Trumo shows up.

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      I have been following British media a bit and unless I am mistaken, this Mandelson chap ran afoul of his Epstein conduct back in September, which was before the DOJ even started releasing the Epstein files as part of the Epstein act, which hadn’t passed at the time. The subsequent release and redactions seem to have exposed even more, but his goose was cooked before that.

      Current allegations are that Mandelson handed Epstein extremely sensitive government information. I forget what Brits call it, but we’d say it was classified.

      And it currently seems like PM Kier Starmer is probably going to fall with him, since he apparently knew about Mendelson’s continuing association with post-conviction Epstein.

      Anyways, that one particularly seems somewhat unrelated to the redaction choices.

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    “Why isn’t the US government prosecuting the pedophilic billionaire death cult?”

    My dude, the US government IS the pedophilic billionaire death cult.

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      yeah, like any good gangster tramp hires nobody that he hasn’t got some leverage over. They’re all covering for each other’s bodies in the closet.

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    It’s because Americans don’t give a shit about anything. Europeans actually have the balls to do something if their governments but Americans will just let their government do anything as long as the marvel and Disney slop keeps flowing into their troughs.

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    “Muted” is a weird way of saying that there will be no consequences at all and if you disagree masked men will show up and disappear you or shoot you in the face and call you a terrorist on tv if you’re lucky enough to have someone catch your execution on video

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    They released this tranche of Epstein files Friday, January 30, 2026 – the same day many people across the US were spontaneously protesting against ICE.

    It’s one thing when you feed the drama mill and send everyone scurrying for whatever little tidbits of meat there are to find in a set of dead files.

    It’s quite another when across all fifty states people are just showing up voluntarily to reject your claim to power.

    Don’t be deceived. They released them when they did and in the way they did because the Epstein files, as bad as they are and as wide in scope as they reach, are by far the LESSER danger to this regime and their absolute need to stay in power.

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    Has nothing to do with which country is doing the redactions, of course.

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    It’s almost as if the US is an oligarchy and that the ultra wealthy are able to govern the nation with political influence and shield themselves from the law.

    This should be a wake up call to all citizens. It doesn’t matter who you elect. Your interests will never be represented until this oligarchy is broken up or destroyed.