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Please avoid Nutella, Kinder and Ferrero products in general. They are known to source their cacao and nuts from child labour.
Also Nutella is like 2/3 palm oil, which destroys rainforests.
Also, Nutella adapts its recipe for different EU countries. The poorer countries get more sugar %. This was warned about in EU Parliament some time ago but I don’t know if it’s actually been put under control.
is that why the nutella i buy in statesia tastes like shit? should i ask someone to import some from belgium for me?
Quite possibly yes, and absolutely no, they don’t deserve the money.
i mean it tastes like shit so, y’know, i eat other stuff. they don’t deserve the money on multiple levels i’m with you. i’ve spent many years trying to figure this out. it’s so… mealy here.
Instead of corporate, mass produced chocolates, please consider locally made, small batch chocolates if you truly want to support your chocolate industry. Also, its so much better.
Several years ago my daughter’s school had a trip to a (small, local) chocolate factory.
For part of the trip the children queued up to dip a marshmallow into a vat of chocolate to taste it.
My daughter was one of the first in the queue, ate hers and went to the back of the queue for a second one… I was so proud 😁
fuck. my chocolatier is probably going to be booked solid during valentimes. i should go on a date this saturday and get some sipping cocoa
I get the sneaking suspicion that OP is from Germany based on the selection presented :D
You’ll be better if you don’t eat any of that shit, European or not.
Who the fuck is buying Hersheys outside of the States anyway? Some sick fucks who enjoy the taste you get when you burp and throw up a little?
Nah, anyone in Europe who’s eaten chocolate that’s made from actual milk would automatically reject that shit out of hand. In fact, I’d sooner eat the abomination that Cadburys has become since they got bought out by the Yanks.
Butyric acid in case anyone is wondering. Literally a product of digestion, so you taste it when you throw up:
Highly-fermentable fiber residues, such as those from resistant starch, oat bran, pectin, and guar are transformed by colonic bacteria into short-chain fatty acids (SCFA) including butyrate, producing more SCFA than less fermentable fibers such as celluloses.[13][21] One study found that resistant starch consistently produces more butyrate than other types of dietary fiber.[22] The production of SCFA from fibers in ruminant animals such as cattle is responsible for the butyrate content of milk and butter.[23]
They literally put vomit flavor in their chocolate!!!
Fazer from Finland!
Now cross check that with https://www.slavefreechocolate.org/ethical-chocolate-companies to trim down that list quite a bit.
At the very least stick to fair trade certified brands.There are a lot of European brands missing on that website, and judging by the plethora of random small American ones, I assume it’s probably because it’s made by an American.
It also weirdly puts Tony’s in the boycott section, when it’s basically the only big brand trying to actively change their whole supply chain (there’s still progress to be made, but putting it alongside Nestlé? really?).
In any way, it’s good advice in the end.
Despite numerous announced initiatives by companies profiting from child and slave labor, none have produced meaningful results. The underlying issue is the inability to ensure a true living wage for farmers, leading them to resort to unpaid child labor, while the industry strives to keep cacao prices at rock bottom.
The conclusion is clear: consumer-facing marketing claims unravel to reveal no substantial impact, leaving consumers susceptible to being “brandwashed.” Until significant tangible changes are witnessed or an assurance of ethical practices throughout their operations is evident, Tony’s Chocolonely remains excluded from the list.
They at least give a reason for Tony’s to be on the boycott list. But then again, this is the last “news” article they published and it’s now over two years old, so who can really say.
But doesn’t that apply just as much to Fairtrade and other, similar certifications? Tony’s is Fairtrade certified. Seems weird to give Fairtrade as a guide for brands not on the list but then exclude one specifically.
Oh, I did not catch that. It’s entirely possible that Tony’s being on the boycott list is based on outdated information. As far as I know it’s just one person maintaining the page. I think you can also contact them.
the Ferrero brand make nutella and kinder bars, and they also financially support the zionist entity and their ongoing genocide of palestinians. If that’s the kind of thing you’d rather not support i’d suggest avoiding ferrero (and nestle)
Plus they use a ton of palm tree oil, so there’s the environmental impact in top of that.
Most of these aren’t chocolate.
Either from a pretentious standpoint (Kinder? Nutella?) or realistic one (does Chupa Chups even make any chocolate items? Haribo *might*)
Are there any chocolate companies with well-documented supply chains that don’t use child labor, slave labor, or otherwise exploit cocoa producers? Because everything I’ve seen and heard tells me that its best to just not eat chocolate at all.
I’d say Tony’s would be your best bet? Not using slave labor is their stated goal, no idea how much they stick to it in reality
I’ll look closer at them, thank you!
they allow some percentage of slave labor iirc
Cocoa doesn’t grow in Europe.
Your point being? This community isn‘t about exclusively promoting products that don’t have any ingredients from outside of Europe.
Calm down. I’m just telling that the terminology “European Chocolate” for the product that is made from 80-90% of non-european resources and done in an extremely trivial way (so it isn’t even classical “your primitive resouses can be only useful after applying of our marvelous technology”) is… well, funny.
No I don’t say that it is an offtop, or incorrect or anything. Just funny. At least for me.
I see what you mean, but your belief that making chocolate from cocoa is „extremely trivial“ is simply wrong. For example, conching was invented in Europe and without it, chocolate would taste and feel totally different. The process is so important and difficult to get right, it often makes the biggest difference in chocolate quality to this day.
That is a mixer. Not really a rocket science. (I can prove my point: chocolate is produced in every country that actually wanted that. “Non-trivial” technologies are less widespread)
Kinder is fairly terrible chocolate though, assuming it’s even legal to call it that.
it’s basically chocolate flavoured sugar
Yeah, it tastes like what I call ‘Christmas chocolate’.
“Supermarket chocolate box sets”
As a Belgian I have no clue how anyone can eat most of these, and that’s including the European ones. Jacques, Callebaut or Galler are the only chocolate I actually buy. Cote Dor dark is decent though.
Or Leonidas, Neuhaus or any small chocolatier for chocolate “bonbons”, the fancy filled chocolates.
Galler is amazing! The chocolate, but also their spreads.
And it’s fair trade
Ritter Sport! Quadratisch, Praktisch, Gut
Weren’t they still making business in Russia despite being called out several times?
Easy choice. I am American and I hate our chocolate. Absolutely dreadful.
You can find good local chocolates. As with so many things, you need to avoid the big businesses.
if you are in the bay area, check out dandelion in san francisco. they make pretty good chocolate. the stuff you can get in stores is all too chalky for me. theirs is not chalky.
