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- politics@lemmy.world
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- politics@lemmy.world

Good. Now try him for his crimes.

It’s afraid
Ironically, NPH is the Nazi in that movie. They even wear the same coat.
The symbolism in the movie is apparently in contrast to the book, which glorified war and the human side. The director decided to take it another direction and it was a fucking great decision
I have to admit, the book makes a great argument for “fascism” / military meritocracy, plus it’s just a easy to read action book.
I still think the argument is very flawed, and it’s a good thing that Heinlein (iirc) never had children to raise.
But do read it, it’s a decent book with an interesting argument.
The book itself does not glorify fascism but rather shows a fascist future human society. Heinlein wasn’t a fucking a Nazi and the “allure” of this weird future fascism is the point on which the reader is supposed to reflect.
First: The book does not glorify historically existing fascism, no.
But I believe that it is at least a half-serious argument, that Heinlein actually believes that a society like the one in the book wouldn’t be the worst.
I don’t believe that Heinlein supported racism or the oppression of “lesser” people. He made that point pretty clear, in interviews, life choices, other stories or by famously revealing (iirc) that Ricoh was brown-skinned.
But the militarism, united humanity in a hostile universe, the weird ideas about authority and merit, and the per aspera ad astra part? I do believe that he’s at least in part making a sincere argument, wrapped in an action story as a vehicle. The world he creates resonates too well with Heinlein’s biography, imho.
Yeah, it is trying to show that a united authoritarian Earth could work if we have aliens around to be the enemy ‘other’.
Personally, I prefer the movie’s take on it.
Sadly, most viewers (at least, the most vocal ones here in America) really don’t understand that movie and end up glorifying the humans by the end. Media literacy is something we need to teach better
I genuinely had no idea how people could misunderstand the movie, until I met such people. It is weird.
yeahhhh. watch the movie again, the aliens were not the bad guys.
True. Just the meme goes like that. But I should probably watch it again anyway. I think I saw it 10+ years ago.
the first scapegoat.
I kinda suspect that the administration was told or it was heavily suggested by higher ups in the military that “yeah…if you go with this insurrection act we’re not going to have your backs on this one.” Otherwise why would they be throwing Bovino under the bus for this?
What has happened thus far is apparently what they wanted according to project 25 but like I said I suspect they don’t have the support of the people they NEED the support from.
It would be nothing short of miraculous if that plan falls through just because it became wildly unpopular. This brings two things to mind:
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It would explain why there’s a phased rollout of worse and worse policy with a lot of improv along the way. Otherwise, all this shit would “just happen” inside the first year.
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It’s not hard to imagine these asswipes acting in a retaliatory manner for not getting their way. But what’s worse is to imagine a failing MAGA or P2025 cabal “going for broke” if it appears they’re all but finished, should we get there. IMO, we should all be prepared for both.
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He needs to retire into a prison cell.
Or at the end of a noose.
Firing squad would be more poetic, no?
Solitary confinement
the short route home
Should be sent directly to The Hague, do not pass Go.
I think minnesota could probably get him on some form of Dereliction of Duty/RICO and throw in felony murder.
The way responsibility has been diffused throughout the command structure is exactly what RICO is for. That said, I don’t think it’s ever been used on a Federal agency before.
To be replaced by someone just as bad I’m sure.
Get fucked
I sure hope they don’t let these characters just slink off into the shadows, never to face any consequences whatsoever.
I hope he retires and tries to live out in the general public. Lets see him try to go to the grocery store or eat in a restaurant. At minimum he’ll have spit in all his food for the rest of his dumbass life, assuming he doesnt end up in prison for his civil rights crimes under color of law.
He barely had time for one photo op though. Gestapo Greg was looking forward to lowering the bar even more so he can reach it.
Twin Cities are creating a legend for themselves. Incredible resistance.

Bye 👋
We’ll always remember you unfondly. Hope whoever they replace you with isn’t somehow fucking worse










