State governor Tim Walz said he had spoken to the White House about the incident.
Fuck the Whitehouse. Deploy the National Guard to get ICE out of town, Tim.
I’m afraid that’s what it will take. I’m also afraid that’s what will start the next Civil War.
I feel the Feds vs States is on already. The States are just not really responding yet.
You’re splitting hairs. There haven’t been standoffs or shots fired yet. It hasn’t started yet. We will all know when it does.
Edit - People: I meant between Minnesota National Guard or Minneapolis Police vs. ICE. Government vs government.
Sorry for the confusion.
NO SHOTS FIRED?!?! FOR FUCK’S SAKE
I meant by the National Guard. Sorry.
I think you are the one splitting hairs. ‘Well technically Jo shots have been fired’?
Sorry for the confusion. Read my edit.
They’ve killed in captivity, had one ruled a homicide by an examiner, publicly executed 2 in front of cameras and so far they’ve managed to at least have their budget increased. At some point something will break.
Edit Removed ‘We’ from the initial start sentence as I’m dumb and can’t type.
Civil War 2.0 is already under way.
I’m sure they’ve taken Tim’s stern criticism on board and will begin withdrawing ICE from the state any day now.
What exactly can the National Guard do? Can they be instructed to resist ICE presence? Genuinely asking.
It would be a coup at that point. The national guard is commanded by the Governor of the state, but the President can also legally override the governor and take control.
Can they be instructed to resist ICE presence
Yes.
Keep in mind, the only alternative to the Minnesota state government resisting the feds directly is armed, citizen militias, which will be way the fuck more bloody. ICE can possibly be intimidated by the national guard, but especially against citizens, they’re not going to just tip their hat and leave.
It’s a game of chicken. Whomever blinks first loses and starts a further escalation.
Always the passive voice. Even international media is apparently scared to say what we all see clearly from multiple angles on video: ICE grabbed him, wrestled him to the ground, beat him, held him still and unloaded about 10 rounds into him at point blank range.
Whoa whoa whoa. You’re missing the most important inflammatory point. He approached them “with a 9mm handgun ^being legally carried and holstered like a responsible gun owner and it had been removed from his possession prior to
his murderdefensive shots^”.
I bet those Democrats who voted for full funding for this public execution are proud and we should call them up and congratulate them on directly causing another murder of an American citizen.
Representatives Henry Cuellar (Texas), Tom Suozzi (New York), Vicente Gonzalez (Texas), Laura Gillen (New York), Marie Gluesenkamp Perez (Washington), Jared Golden (Maine), and Don Davis (North Carolina).
While we’re at it, we should thank Pelosi (California), Clyburn (Worst Carolina), and other DNC leadership bigwigs for personally going to Texas to make sure that the anti-choice, anti-trans, and ridiculously corrupt Cuellar beat his progressive challenger Jessica Sisneros who was winning before they put their thumb on the scale.
I will never understand how we can push the second amendment so hard, and then use having a gun as an excuse to kill civilians. Furthermore, I will never understand how the 2A crowd will then also use that excuse as a justifiable reason for someone to be killed by law enforcement.
“No, bro, the way I carry MY gun is totally different. He wasn’t doing it right.”
California started restricting guns when the Black Panthers started exercising their 2A rights…
Reagan did that. It’s always been the right wing nuts who control what others do.
Systemic white supremacy
The people who pushed the 2a are in ICE though. “Some of those that work forces are the same that burn crosses.”
“The only moral ___ is my ___” is a template applied to many things by right-wingers. Abortion, gun, healthcare, insurrection…
Pretty sure “a gunshot is heard and then several more are fired. The man then falls still.” is inaccurate. Video shows the man fell still at the first shot. Which means all the others were overkill.
And they’re pretending that he was brandishing the gun/had it illegally. Just came out that he had a permit to carry.
That was an execution.
I watched the video but I cannot tell which agent shot the guy
The first one was overkill.
The man was on the ground already when the first shot happened. I call total bullshit on the narrative DHS and ICE are trying to cook up.
This was done one purpose to instill fear of protesting.
My fellow Americans,
SHOOT FIRST.
If possible, do it from where they can’t see you.
The system will never be on our side. Just like this guy was murdered for exercising constitutional rights, any open resistance will be met with overwhelming force.
It’s time to learn from those who have experience fighting a much more powerful enemy.
We need more community defense classes now more than ever. Seriously!
