• Bytemeister@lemmy.world
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      If only. If I knew an ICE employee I would consider it my personal duty to make their lives living hell.

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      Listen, if it makes you feel safer, by all means get your guns.

      But this isn’t some individualist enterprise. You’re not Rambo. Owning a gun is not going to save you from the police, much less the military

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        This the stupid kind of thinking that will lead you smack into a full blown dictatorship.

        Trust me as a Cuban. USE YOUR FUCKING GUNS before all you have left is pots and pans and then tell me how that works out.

        Wtf is the military gonna do? Kill 200+ million Americans fighting? Then america will be nothing.

        If the military wants to target citizens then its full out war.

        America bows to no king or tyrants per our constitution.

        Buy your guns people dont be a coward its your constitutional right. Don’t be a coward and be like oh no tanks and military.

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          Trust me as a Cuban.

          Cuban from Havana or Cuban from Florida?

          Wtf is the military gonna do? Kill 200+ million Americans fighting?

          Glances at Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria, and Palestine

          America bows to no king or tyrants per our constitution.

          As someone who has spent my entire life in this country, I regret to inform you that there are few things Americans love more than the taste of boot. We pledge to the flag. We bow to the church. We grovel at the feet of the boss.

          This country is flush with tyrants who parade about promising new kinds of liberty. And behind each one is a train of courtiers and sycophants and cronies and thugs, the first group singing their praises and the second stomping on the necks of anyone bold enough to heckle or jeer.

          Buy your guns people dont be a coward its your constitutional right.

          Buy your guns, sure. But who do you point them at? When the boss lays you off, the bank freezes your account, the grocery store locks its shelves, and the sheriff posts an eviction notice on your front door, who do you shoot? This isn’t a war you can win with bullets. You’re fighting a comprehensive economic system.

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            Lots of words.

            So your argument is “DO NOTHING”?

            Why should we listen to you?

            Like, what do you think you’re accomplishing here?

            The options are to buy guns and have some option for resistance against an oppressive regime, or listen to you and do nothing.

            You’re wasting our time. And yours.

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              So your argument is “DO NOTHING”?

              “My plan is to get a gun and shoot myself in the foot.”

              “I don’t think that’s going to work.”

              “Oh! So we just DO NOTHING?!!!”

              Online Discourse in a nutshell.

              You’re wasting our time.

              My Brother In Christ, you are posting “Revolutionaries Rise Up!” to random anons on a back alley message board. Your time was already wasted.

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          Step 3) US law enforcement and military see civilians with inferior consumer-grade firepower and surrender

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            A Ruger mini-14 is the same thing as any AR-pattern rifle that a cop carries. They use the same cartridge even. Difference is one is wood the other is plastic

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        Check every resistance group story world wide.

        1. never surrender your gun or get one
        2. if they start bombing you use tunnels
        3. it is better to die fighting, than having a slow death by a system that exploit you to make the rich richer.
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        Cool story.

        So anyways, when a country starts allowing fascism to creep in, and the “leader” is openly defying that nation’s Constitution, it benefits citizens to arm themselves to the teeth.

        I am not, in any way, a gun person. I simply HAVE to be under the circumstances presenting themselves.

        And under those circumstances it is better to have than have not.

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          So anyways, when a country starts allowing fascism to creep in, and the “leader” is openly defying that nation’s Constitution, it benefits citizens to arm themselves to the teeth.

          Abstractly, sure. And then there’s a romantic struggle between Freedom and Tyranny with lots of drama and adventure. Maybe a bit of romance thrown in for color. Big climactic action sequence. Denouement. Roll credits.

          I am not, in any way, a gun person. I simply HAVE to be under the circumstances presenting themselves.

          Who are you pointing your guns at? How many times have you pulled the trigger?

          You’re not a gun person. This isn’t the statement of a “gun person” it’s the statement of a person in the full grip of delusional power fantasy. You don’t understand what it means to use a weapon in self-defense, much less the consequences of actually trying to take a life for any reason much less one as abstract as “People Are Taking My Freedoms!”

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    Never forget this: Everyone participating and ‘just following orders’ is also responsible, from the highest bureaucrats and generals to the lowest public servants and soldiers. Couldn’t have a death camp without everyone greenlighting and then Private John Doe following orders and building it.

    Good fucking luck, USA. And may god have mercy on your souls.

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    US service members participating in these actions are enemies of the state IMO. I would like to see them treated as such.

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      Finally, we can end "thank you for your service " and get back to calling them baby killers. Ah yes, the time before 9-11.

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        Bullshit. You need to go farther back than that.

        Baby killers are what fucktards called the barely-not-children who were drafted against their will to fight and die in Vietnam.

        People really appreciated the troops who fought in the first Gulf Wars and helped our ally Kuwait after they were invaded. In 1990.

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          I mean that’s where it originated, for sure, it just stopped being used after 9-11.

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    This is troubling in several ways. If it is allowed to continue then I foresee “military zones” on college campuses and many other places.

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      The loophole that seems to be being exploited is that they’re allowed to redefine existing federal lands as military bases thus side stepping posse comitatis act. I don’t think they can just declare any land (E.G. state owned or privately owned land) part of a military base and there’s likely knock on effects from that as well. For instance I’d be surprised if there aren’t various laws about who and how you’re allowed to access “military bases” and therefore they can’t just slap one in the middle of a campus at least not without opening a giant can of worms.