Summary
Anthony Muro, a Marine veteran and former VA hospital worker, regrets voting for Trump after being fired amid sweeping government cuts led by Elon Musk.
Muro was one of 25,000 probationary (new) federal employees terminated, including 1,700 VA workers. Despite court orders deeming the firings unlawful, he remains on administrative leave.
Muro criticizes Trump’s efficiency drive as harmful to veterans, saying cuts damage morale and care quality.
Many VA staff and veterans fear reduced services and long-term impacts on healthcare. Muro hopes to continue helping veterans despite his uncertain future.
No, you know what? Fuck that. This man watched as Trump’s goons stormed the capitol and tried to overthrow the government. Those are the enemies this jackass swore to defend the constitution from. What, I’m supposed to cut him some slack because he was talked out of moral outrage by people like Jesse Watters? Fuck that guy. He deserves zero sympathy.
No they’re still responsible for their actions. No one’s asking you to absolve them. Just not crucify them. I had a similar discussion with a loved one who saw the very same thing and was repulsed by it initially. But ultimately voted for trump in 2024 The repetition of propaganda is very powerful. It can make you disbelieve your eyes and ears. Anyone not just them. But they are going to have to live with it now. However bringing them to our side. Having them fight along with us. Despite their sins. Would be far more preferable than facing them and the actual fascists.
The people of Nazi Germany weren’t monsters. Though they enabled and even did monstrous things at the behest of monsters. The least we could do is not make it easier for the actual monsters to do this again. Offer those “unclean” an opportunity to escape the path they’ve set themselves on and possibly do something to remedy it. If they still refuse then it’s on them and whatever God they’ve failed.
You know what historians call the German people who voted for the Nazi party because of propaganda, or economic reasons, or because they just plain liked the cut of Hitler’s jib? Nazis. Historians call them Nazis.
You’re talking about fighting “the actual fascists”, but if this guy’s joined the cult of fascists, then he’s a fascist too.
Edit: also - the fuck you mean offer them a second chance? This election WAS the second chance. Third, actually. Just how many chances do you want to give out? They aren’t free, you know.
You know what a lot of historians would also tell you. They weren’t hardcore ideologically aligned. They were responsible for their own actions. But they weren’t predestined to be monsters. But if we consign them to being monsters there’s no better way to make sure they absolutely are monsters.
And like seriously friend, I have no idea who you’re debating against. It isn’t me. I’ve not made any of these claims or statements that you are attacking. And I’m not sure what your goal or objective is beyond looking foolish or overzealously radicalized? But that being the case, mission accomplished? You are honestly behaving as bad as many of the people you are railing against.
If you think that me calling someone who voted for Trump a shithead is “behaving as bad as [the shithead I’m] railing against”, then you are a complete buffoon. That man voted for a fucking traitor. Probably multiple times. His actions have directly led us to this state. You’re saying I shouldn’t crucify him… why the fuck not? He crucified all of us first.
Again with the arguments I never made. It’s not about what you’re saying. It’s about your behavior. You’re behaving just like them. There are absolutely some of them that are lost. Just like you are a lost cause. But there are some that can be reached if we simply take the time.
Please enlighten me as to which cause I am lost from. I would like to know what noble calling I am failing to meet.