• MolochHorridus@lemmy.ml
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    2 months ago

    This is about driving us nuts into cloud computing. Just as people are forced to upgrade their computers for Windows 11. First the drought then the saving tech bros emerge with their offerings.

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      You don’t need the latest Nvidea GPU to self host your own computing. You don’t even need ssds. You arguably don’t even need that much RAM. A ten year old Dell work fine. Are you self hosting your own AI? Probably not. So what? AI is not mature enough that it is a necessity.

      Are computing prices coming down? Unlikely before the AI bubble pops. I think we have taken for granted that computing will perpetually improve price/performance. This is not sustainable.

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          And new computers can break.

          Might as well never buy anything because everything can break!

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              Yeah and the stuff releasing right now will be “old hardware” in 5 years.

              I’m still gaming on a Ryzen 1700X. And my GPU is a used RTX 3080 I bought off eBay for $500 two years ago.

              That 3080 was over $1000 during the GPU craze last time. And what was I using before that 3080? A 1080ti I bought at MSRP, which I still have and is my backup because hey, it’s nearly 10 years old and still works.

              I’m not saying go buy a dual core Pentium, but “old hardware” isn’t some boogeyman and “we will eventually not have old computers” is like saying we’ll never have old cars.

              And guess what, if everyone stopped buying all this overpriced crap then prices would come down, but we all know that isn’t going to happen.

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      So far they are sustaining each other in a giant circle jerk of investments. It is only going to implode when they run out of money, and the problem is they have a mindbogglingly huge amount of money.

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        Call me cynical, but I believe that companies might be happy keeping the prices high if it means they can shuffle consumers onto computers as a service. Maybe wasted silicon will end up being good for business.

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          This doesn’t seem long term viable.

          they would have to massively expand the amount of compute once the current boom ends, otherwise someone like micron will go back to consumer RAM. Micron and nvidia won’t profit long term once the demand for new data centres drops.

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    At this point I’m just assuming we’re looking at a greedflation scenario again. They’re jacking up prices for an assumed increase in demand due to AI. It’s bullshit market manipulation for profit. Also fuck AI I’m fucking sick of this shit already.

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    I upgraded all of my devices to 16gb or 32gb of RAM just as all this crap started happening, before prices spiked, and made sure I have enough storage.

    Now I’m just praying that all of the hardware holds out for 2-3 years to weather this storm. Please keep on chugging, my 5800X in a B550 mobo…I literally can’t afford to replace you anytime soon.

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      This is where I’m at. I’m selling off some old DDR3 RAM I have and I’m hanging onto my DDR4 stuff and systems.

      Just bought a 3700X to replace an aging Ryzen 1700X. $100 on eBay, so not bad.

      For your 5800X if it does die(*knock on wood) then at least you can snag a 5700X or 5800X on eBay for $200. Hopefully that stays consistent.

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    Is there a shortage or is it just price gouging? We should be using the right terms.

    I can go on Newegg right now and see tons of listings for Ram.

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    I’m expecting software development to begin focusing on optimization in about 3 years as businesses begin to complain about feature updates slowing things down on the machines that they are keeping longer than before.

    CTOs/CIOs that were holding off on purchasing new hardware because of the upcoming improved CPUs from AMD and Intel lost a horrible gamble.

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      Part of the problem is lack of interference, they are not regulating the cartels behind this and with Trump they won’t be because all it takes is a bribe.

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    modern reality where only governments and massive corporations control the hardware, and hardware itself is today’s weaponry, replacing tanks and guns?