A bombshell new report from CBS News suggests that the Iranian Government has murdered between 12,000 and 20,000 protesters since the ongoing, national revolt against it began.
“Information trickling out of Iran on Tuesday suggests that a crackdown by authorities to end more than two weeks of widespread anti-government protests has likely been far more deadly than activists outside the country have reported,”
12.000 number came first from JerusalemPost/TimeofIsrael side so its not reliable.
Jesus, I wish there was some kind of standard for freedom of speech and freedom of the press that could be applied globally…
But that would be inherently “evil” because global governments are supposed to be bad? Unless it’s corporate globalism. Then it’s ok, and we don’t need standards or regulations because the values are just baked in since it’s a private company…?
Still it does seems a bit hypocritical to point out how evil Iran is while Trump is threatening to invoke the insurrection act in Minnesota against protestors who are upset about Trump invading their home, tear gassing a high school, shooting one man, and murdering one woman (so far), and even though it hasn’t gotten much press, for some reason the FBI just raided a journalists home yesterday and nobody really seems to know why.
Not trying to downplay Iran murdering so many citizens or give Trump brownie points just because he’s pointing at the guy he’s got a lot of catching up to do with when comparing violent crack downs on critics and the press.
Let’s just focus on the guy in Iran bc Trump’s mad at him, not the guy in Saudi Arabia bc we’re frenz now… And maybe not the guy in Russia? Because I can’t even keep up with what we’re all supposed to believe re: Trump, Putin, and oil right now.
Tldr: Authoritarian dictators all suck no matter who they are, where they are, or how many innocent people they’ve murdered (so far)
ITT: lemmites jumping through hopes to be contrarians
Or the admin is doing the Iraq WMD stuff to go to war. Something that the current admin did for months with Venezuela. Of course news agencies with goldfish memory will just repeat a whole lie. So whether its the boy crying wolf again or not its clearly a tragedy whether its 1% of a Gaza or 5% of a Gaza.
From what I was told. We can’t trust info coming out of Iran right now. We don’t know if these are the Iranian government trying see who repeats info. But because internet is so limited. We don’t have our normal sources.
CBS is currently beholden to the Nazi’s and I don’t know if I trust their reporting. It would be in the US’ best interest to show Iranian instability as well as how violent “real” protesting is to try and dissuade domestic ideas.
That said. If Iran is murdering 10k citizens a week, their government won’t last through the end of the month. One can only hope.
Agreed.
Need an aljazeera link.Al jazeera is literally the Qatari state media.
So? Is iran controlling Qatar?
Just weird to say “I don’t trust reporting from a state-influenced source. I’ll wait until I hear reporting from media owned by a different state with an even more vested interest.”
Everything is owned by someone. Al Jazeera leans left, and yes they’re a state run media organization, but they’re more factual than not according to ground news. Perhaps the reason Al Jazeera hasn’t published the death toll is because they can’t verify it and their journalistic integrity prevents them from echoing unverifiable rumors.
Exposing yourself to propaganda, if you understand it’s propaganda, is just another piece of data to anyone seriously trying to understand the situation. Propaganda exposes desire. Knowing that Al Jazeera is Qatari state media, one could want to hear what Qatar wants people to think is happening, and compare that to what western media wants you to think is happening, and compare that to other sources etc etc. Comparing propaganda against trusted and vetted sources exposes lies.
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Qatar has much better relations with Iran than most Arab states. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran–Qatar_relations
Qatar is a country that try to keep an image of the country who get along with everybody that’s why it has good relation with the two enemies the usa and iran.
Qatar will be ‘based’ in USA!
Yup. Whatever’s coming out of CBS on topics where Israel has vested interest, there’s a good chance of hasbara. Could still be true but a bucket of salt is recommended.
20,000 soldiers were killed on the first day of the Somme in WWI which involved literally mowing down rows of soldiers with machine gun. We would see plenty of evidence if this was happening to civilians in cities even without internet.
to try and dissuade domestic ideas.
Happening in this very thread 🙄 https://lemmy.zip/comment/23951989
I really, really hope the protesters succeed. Iran has such a glorious history and wonderful people - they deserve so much more. It could retake its place as the shining example of countries in the region, as it was for most of the last 5000 years.
Do you know that saudi arabia beheads more protestors per capita than Iran? Do you know how many countries in the middleast that don’t even allow any protest or assembly or voting or any political participation? do you know there’s a country in a middleeast that is an actual genocidal settler colonial superamacist aparthied?
Iranian people main suffering happens because of Western sanction because they oppose israel. If the US really gave a fuck about human rights, they should free Palestinians from their genocidal government that slaughtered 100000 of them this year alone. But no, they are aiding israel, and supporting every oppressive murderous absolute dictatorship government in the middleeast that support israel.
Did you know that obesity kills more people than cancer? That’s why we need to stop caring about cancer completely. Someone you know has cancer? Fuck them, because did I mention obesity is worse? We should only think about one thing at a time, and I get to decide what that thing is. Absolutely NOTHING should be done about cancer until not a single human being is obese.
both are bad but the reason they never fight cancer and in fact they’re funding, protecting and spreading cancer to other countries is because there a powerful lobby that bribes US government politicians to fund and protect cancer at any cost, and fight anyone who wants to stop cancer from spreading to other countries.
Not only this, the people you’re talking about were protesting the sickness they got because of the sanctions thay the cancer spreading lobby made againt them, and even sent their spy agents to spread cancer there by shooting and killing and burning people and ambulances and buildings, and then made lies in the media to misguide the real dignosis and call to just bomb and kill everyone there and put in charge a cancer-loving monarch that works with them and would then exploit their resources to them and allow them to spread cancer to the rest of the world.
As long as the US doesn’t march in and say “We’ll help you with your oil and write your laws for you.”
At this point I suspect it’s less about wanting the oil under Iran and more about not wanting China to have it.
Or access to Russia for a coming war.
they deserve so much more.
Without the sanctions they already would have so much more.
AP seems to point towards ~2000
CBS News
12,000 and 20,000 protesters
Dawg Pakistan wasn’t even able to arrest that many people in the past 2 years worth of protests against an army with actual firepower that has been working overtime to get people killed.
It even took Gaza a solid month to reach those numbers under constant bombing campaigns and a wall of IFVs.
Iran’s internet has only been complete blackout for 4 days, so unless they decided to unload several war days worth of ammunition in a purge killing spree, this isn’t possible. AP is reporting 2.7k.
Its atrocity propaganda
2.7k is most likely a big overestimate.
holy shit, that’s awful.
Literally atrocity propaganda.
This is the Iran equivalent of the beheaded babies.
CBS is owned by Larry Ellison and run by Bari Weiss. Zionist fanatics who are Israel first.
With the Trump admin looking who to attack next around the world I don’t trust any of these numbers.
The regime admitted to 2,000.
And while 12,000 is the highest number I’ve seen so far, it’s got to be somewhere between those figures.
These numbers are bullshit, they exceed even war casualty numbers where artillery and air power are used. Obvious propaganda.
This is the new CBS. Is this true or is it giving Trump what he needs to go in there?
Oi, that’s more then most tiananmen square massacre estimates. Must be crazy to be there right now.
Fucking monsters, I hope the Iranian people string up their opressors.
Who again is sanctioning them?
The elite seem to be doing quite well there.
That’s exactly why sanctions are not good. Those 2,000 dead were motivated to have a better life that they could already have without the sanctions.
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