• RunawayFixer@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    This is another sign of how youtube’s story of “we’ve never made a profit” is bogus. More and more organisations are advertising on youtube, youtube is pushing the limits on the amount of advertising that viewers can stand & at the same time they’ve started paying creators less.

    It looks like they’ve really started abusing their market position in the last few years: more income and less expenditure. And it’s probably no coincidence that there are no financial figures for youtube alone.

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        2 months ago

        AWS is incredibly expensive, if you’re hosting something like GitHub or Netflix on them instead of just owning the servers, you’re incredibly dumb

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          Ok, what are the alternatives? A fully kitted out server rack, switches, redundancy, CPUs, multiple drives, backup storage or tapes, backup batteries, own power supply, software and licenses can cost as much as a new mid sized car? Asking for a friend…

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        I found an estimate of annual expenditures of 3.25 billion, without content payouts, but with engineering/legal/moderation costs. As 2024 revenue I found back 36 billion from advertising & 14.5 billion from subscriptions. Forbes had an article where Google claimed to have paid out $70bn in 2021-2023 to content creators, this number probably includes subscriptions. In those 3 years youtube had an ad revenue of 89.5 billion, but I have no number for subscriptions. These are all very opaque numbers. Based on these opaque numbers, I’d guesstimate youtube’s profit margin at 42%, which I find excessive.

        $36bn ad revenue + $14.5bn subscriptions: https://www.businessofapps.com/data/youtube-statistics/

        $3.25bn annual expenditures: https://www.clrn.org/how-much-does-youtube-cost-to-run/

        $70bn payed out to creators from 2021 to 2023: https://www.forbes.com.au/news/innovation/youtube-70-billion-creator-payments/

        Edit, how I got to my guesstimate of 42%:
        36bn ad revenue in 2024. An average of 30bn ad revenue in the 3 years prior. Estimation for the subscription income in those 3 years: 30/36 x 14.5 x 3=36 billion. 73bn expenditures & 126bn income = 53bn profit. 53/126 = 42%.

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        2 months ago

        Does that include the storage costs of the existing exabytes of videos, plus the terabytes of new videos being uploaded every day?