• MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca
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      8 hours ago

      I’m not American, and this kind of absolute is completely unacceptable.

      You’re basically fun-shaming.

      There’s plenty of stuff that’s universally disliked, like… Idk, murder… But that’s not the whole reason guns exist. Sport shooting, hunting, event target practice, can be lots of fun to people, and they all involve guns, and no person is harmed, if done correctly.

      Stop being so hateful.

      I don’t even like guns. I’ve never held, nor fired one. And I wouldn’t ever, even slightly, say that there is no “fun” to be had with firearms.

      You’re a dick.

      • Hawk@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        Guns should be marketed as dangerous goods that require training and responsibility in owning them.

        There is nothing wrong with having fun with firearms, but marketing them like toys is messed up in all kinds of ways.

        So yeah, if people want to sell these like they sell candy to children, I am shaming them.

      • julietOscarEcho@sh.itjust.works
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        You missed the point. Saying that calling it “fun” is problematic doesn’t imply that you can’t have fun, of course you can (I have, a tonne). I assume the above comment called it problematic because they weighed the “fun” of gun owners against 40k dead Americans a year and decided maybe we shouldn’t be focusing on the entertainment.

        You can absolutely have more gun control and not really inhibit firearm sports or hunting BTW. The USA ought to have a monopoly on Olympic shooting medals if that weren’t the case 😅

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      8 hours ago

      Firearms are fun. Knives are fun. Martial arts are fun. At least to a decently large number of people. That doesn’t mean that their roles in society don’t suck.

      One might say that the danger (to people, to society…) outweighs the benefits of allowing target shooting as a sport. Maybe, I’d still disagree, but that’s an opinion we can argue about. We don’t allow people to build their own nuclear reactors for fun, for example. But saying something isn’t “fun” is ignoring that a lot of people perceive the world differently.

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        8 hours ago

        A lot of stupid things are “fun” to a huge number of people. Loud cars, street fights, guns… Normal people grow out of it. Just because some adult children still think it’s “fun” doesn’t mean we have to tolerate and allow it.

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      10 hours ago

      Disagree. I’m not from the US, so maybe guns being seen as fun is more of a cultural issue in not aware of, but plenty of weapons are seen as fun here in the UK. And while we do have gun crime, I think firearms are seen differently here vs the US.

      People will go axe throwing for fun. With Scouts, we shot air rifles on camp a number of times (supervised by people who knew what they were doing). Knife throwing is also a thing. Clay Pigeon shooting is also not uncommon here.

      I genuinely believe using a weapon on a (non-living) target is fun for a lot of normal, well adjusted people.

      • Hawk@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        You are talking about activities.

        Sure you can have fun like that. But that doesn’t mean that these things should be sold as “fun” like toys are marketed.

        They should be marketed to make clear these are dangerous weapons that require training and responsibility, not sold as toys to play around with.