News that big box wholesaler Costco is taking Donald Trump’s administration to court over his tariff war — while demanding a refund — landed with a thud with the president’s most ardent defenders.On Monday, Costco Wholesale lawyers filed a lawsuit that states, in part, “Because IEEPA does not clearl...

I know it’s the second Costco related thing I’ve posted on this, but it’s a pretty big deal.

If these MAGA turds want to try to boycott, I’ll laugh my ass off because this one of the best performing retail stocks in the US in the past 20 years.

  • CharlesDarwin@lemmy.worldEnglish
    18·
    1 day ago

    I thought these dumbfucks wanted low prices, LOL?

    Now they are butthurt if companies like Costco sue to get that money back that Taco illegally added to the cost of so many things?

    Must be Redhat Logic ™.

    • ameancow@lemmy.worldEnglish
      9·
      24 hours ago

      I thought these dumbfucks wanted low prices, LOL?

      Nope. They never cared about grocery prices. They never cared about border security. They never cared about the economy. They never cared about protecting children and the whole laundry list of “huge conservative issues” because they are getting their values from FOX-feelings-news, not any carefully thought-out positions.

      They’re just dumb people. Every population is going to have a dumb segment. Our ire and desire for destruction should be focused squarely on the grifters and networks and pundits on Youtube who are feeding this stupidity-powered machine.

      The dumb people themselves? We can turn them. It’s not that hard, they are… and I cannot stress this enough, dumb. What the left broadly forgets though is that you don’t turn dumb people with smart arguments, you have to influence them the way you would a toddler. Change how they feel, then you can point them at a new target. People like Sanders have been doing this for decades and has huge success. The whole plot is right there, easy to use, we have tyrannical oligarchs who are stealing our money and hiding in boats in other countries and so on.

      It’s just that said people in boats have designed a culture war so that the dumb fucks don’t realize who the real enemy is. It sounds stupid simple to anyone who can read, but I have to remind everyone, nearly a quarter of US adults are functionally illiterate. We have to stop expecting smart arguments and preaching and scolding to work. We have to say dumb shit to make dumb people attack the right targets.

      • Blumpkinhead@lemmy.world
        2·
        22 hours ago

        I’m interested in this. Do you have any examples of dumb shit to say that might get through to people like this?

        • ameancow@lemmy.worldEnglish
          1·
          9 minutes ago

          The other user who replied first nailed it, at least nailed the starting point. Just listen.

          This is harder than it sounds, because they will spout off some really, really wrong ideas and wrong takes that will make steam shoot out your ears. Everything inside you will want to correct them. This is the point where you HAVE to reign in your desire to use your brain and try to bring them up to your level, because you can’t. Not if they deny basic facts about reality like evolution or that race doesn’t come with intrinsic values or that science can prove facts, or they say that trans people are literal devils and all these ideas you will immediately identify as wrong or even dangerous. You will desperately want to “fix” that problem, but if you try that first they will close all mental doors on you.

          I would suggest that many do this unconsciously even as a “litmus test” of sorts to see if you’re going to attack their identity. We are progressive/intellectual so we have to understand that “being a dumbass” is a valid identity if that’s what matters to someone, so we have to give them that space to carve out their rebellion against order and logic. At least for now. As soon as you invalidate someone’s identity they will never see you as anything other than a threat, and if you’ve ever raised dogs, you will know that a scared dog acts very aggressive, not usually cowering or hiding. They bark, they try to escalate the situation, they bristle and act tougher than they are.

          So the biggest challenge to everyone who wants to change these people will be to listen to them without trying to fix their broken worldview. You have to let them be them for a while and just ask them questions. Ask them questions about how they feel about things, and what they want for themselves, their loved-ones, etc.

          A great magic happens as you give a simple mind a safe place to talk. I’ve done this over and over. They will start letting down guards pretty fast when you prove you’re not going to “hurt” them in some way by challenging their beliefs. They will start showing you their uncertainty, their fears, their vulnerabilities. They will start leaving cracks open for you to explore and ask deeper questions.

          See, all that shit they think they believe, the spiel they gave about immigrants or gay people, they don’t cling to these values because they’re well-thought out, logistical philosophies that they’ve studied, it’s just emotional venting with a narrative that was supplied to them. They are equally capable of shifting 180-degrees because that’s how emotions work. You just have to make it safe for them to do so.

          In fact, I would say this is your “win condition” by itself, just to get them to feel safe to talk to you. You have to abandon any expectations that you’re going to make their eyes open wide and go “Wow, I’ve been so wrong!” No, your best hope is to change how they feel about one small thing at a time.

          I used to “flip” incels this way, and I am currently “one of the good ones” to several older, set-in right-wingers who will seek me out to get my takes on issues or ideas despite knowing that I’m on the other side of their ideology, because it makes them feel good and feel smart to have someone who they can safely get a second opinion from. Imagine if your parents were actually non-judgemental and you could have brought home any new, challenging idea to debate comfortably around the dinner table. Everyone would have wanted that growing up. You can be that environment to someone.

          Imagine if every right-wing dumbass out there knew “one of the good ones.” Imagine if several million people were exposed to just one person who proves an exception to their emotional rule that your side is the “enemy.” This is how you topple mountains, not by butting heads against it, but by carving out cracks in the base.

        • ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works
          5·
          12 hours ago

          A lot of times letting them talk and actually listening to what they have to say, they give it directly to you. If you acknowledge their dumb shit, they’re more likely to return the favor.

          Like, helping a NASCAR fan get into EVs because of their absolute love of torque isn’t an unreal scenario. They’ll give you the roadmap.