• givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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        18 hours ago

        dont associate autism with intellectual differences

        Coming from a good place, but you don’t know what you’re talking about

        There are absolutely differences, they just tend to even out on an overall IQ score. There’s a sleight positive correlation even, but that’s likely due to emotional intelligence not being measured on an IQ test and the very low ends of the IQ range may not ever get tested for autism.

        But are you honestly telling people that autism isn’t correlated to better pattern recognition or anything else?

        Like, there’s a myriad of ways you’re wrong here, but to insist that there are zero differences is just unbelievable. You can’t honestly believe that, do you?

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          17 hours ago

          I feel that you are being unfairly hostile to the person you responded to, while ignoring the content of what the initial commenter said and why the person you responded to pushed back on that.

          I’m not disagreeing with you that there aren’t differences, but do you have autism or are you a mental health professional versed in or specialized in autism? If neither, I would like to respectfully ask that you refrain from commenting about the differences and distinctions of autism.

          Our science and understanding of autism is still evolving steadily, and e.g. in regards to what you specifically stated about IQ scores, I don’t feel that they fully capture and measure intelligence in autistic individuals (wherever they are on the spectrum) for a variety of reasons.

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            15 hours ago

            but do you have autism or are you a mental health professional versed in or specialized in autism?

            While there’s no way that you could have known that I have a degree in psychology and for years worked with special needs populations ranging from “passable” to “I was changing grown adults diapers”…

            You literally just called me out for not having social graces and hyper fixating on a narrow aspect of a comment…

            Autism is a spectrum, literally all of us are on it. That’s literally what a spectrum is in a psychological context. Everyone is “on the spectrum” that’s what makes it a spectrum.

            I don’t feel that they fully capture and measure intelligence in autistic individuals

            So…

            You agree with me? Because I literally just said that…

            But no test can “fully” measure anyone intelligence. It’s always going to be approximation that works for a majority of people.

            I sat thru like 5 hours for a Wechsler, just to be told my overall wasn’t reliable because I was statistically insignificant. It was still valuable data because my lowest section scores were still quantifiable. But there’s no reason to have the basic test be able to fully measure everyone. If I cared enough I could take a more in depth test to find out.

            But why the fuck didn’t you ask questions instead of all those assumptions you just made?

            Why even reply to me like you’re going to trust what I say, when you could have looked up this stuff online waaaaaaay before I took the time to reply?

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              Autism is a spectrum, literally all of us are on it. That’s literally what a spectrum is in a psychological context. Everyone is “on the spectrum” that’s what makes it a spectrum.

              I’m not going to claim that you don’t have the qualifications or experience you claim to have, but autism clearly isn’t your field of expertise. Autism isn’t called a spectrum because everybody is on it. It’s because it presents very differently in different people and there are a wide variety of traits only a few of which may be shared by any two autistic individuals.

              The diagnostic criteria quite explicitly compare and contrast the traits of autistic people with the traits of allistic people, and the impairment is categorised by levels, 1, 2, or 3.

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              15 hours ago

              I responded because you were being arguably hostile to the other commenter in tone throughout your response, and you’re being uncharitable and hostile to me here too, from my perspective. Maybe I’m too sensitive, but it doesn’t seem like civil behavior.

              With respect to you, I can’t engage further in this conversation.

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                15 hours ago

                So you replied in the first place because you disliked my tone, but you were comfortable insulting me in your reply…

                And when my tone didn’t change after you insulted me…

                You replied again to insult me again and say you didn’t want to talk to me?

                There is absolutely no logic in what you’re doing.

                At any step you could have just not replied with insults, and none of this would be happening.

                Why don’t you just block me? Because replying to police tone while simultaneously insulting someone isn’t going to be effective for me, and most likely not anyone else.

                Seriously, in general saying:

                I can’t engage further in this conversation

                Is never ever ever going to be as effective at ending a conversation than deleting the reply instead of hitting “reply” and posting it

                On some level you have to understand that, right?

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                  15 hours ago

                  I did not insult you. Your tone does not read as friendly or anything close to it. I’m recognizing that I may be too sensitive here, so I’m refraining from reporting you.