Blatant is the key word. They are so high on their own narrative that they don’t even try to hide their corruption anymore. After their downfall, we’ll have plenty of material to indict & ultimately lock them away with.
After their downfall, we’ll have plenty of material to indict & ultimately lock them away with.
Who’s this “we”? You can’t use a corrupt system to solve the corrupt system, the corruption involves the legal system (remember who is designing and passing the laws!) and the law enforcement officers. So if you want to have the power to lock them away, you’re going to have to organize with fellow citizens to develop worker power outside of the state.
I could be wrong and I admit that I don’t have as a firm grasp of US politics as I’d like, but I really cannot see a situation where anyone is going to be able to control Trump to the point that which they might be able to get him from front of a jury. I can’t see that happening without some level of conflict. He’s already talking about a third term, the only way that doesn’t happen is a rebellion, or him having a heart attack or something.
It’s still a huge jump to actually succeed in a third term. Maybe I’m naive but even in the face of blatant flouting the law, I can’t see that happening
But at least as importantly, Trump is nearing the end of his life. Supreme Court has already covered him with blanket immunity: treason is fine as long as it’s official business, corruption is fine, violating the constitution is fine, personal enrichment by exploiting the government is fine. He’s probably out of the reach of justice, except for the voice of history.
But all the minions holding themselves above the law to do evil are only protected because of Trump. They can’t buy a pardon from an ethical president, and even Republicans can be ethical. Their time for running amuck is coming to the end. There’s still every chance they will face justice for their crimes.
And even where they’re not actual crimes, I’m sure Republicans will rediscover their “ethics” when it’s a Democrat President who could act similarly. They will actually help restore order, for fear of leopards eating their faces
The current regime will collapse, one way or another, sooner or later. Then we’ll get them all in front of judge and/or jury and it’ll all be slam dunk thanks to the material they themselves provided.
Of course I’m hoping this all happens before any of them dies of old age.
Their goal is to make sure that when they go down there is no one left to hold them accountable. They’re making sure everyone else goes down before them. This regime will never be held accountable, Trump should be in jail right now and the government and the courts all decided that would be unfair to the poor orange billionaire who never emotionally matured beyond a whiny spoiled child who is bitter that the other kids don’t like him and is determined to make them pay instead of learning how to get along and share his toys.
The American system has the president be the ultimate authority. In order to face any kind of justice someone would have to deny that authority.
He is in effect a dictator, as bad as in Russia or North Korea, someone would have to have the balls and the executive authority to be able to hold him to account. Right now he is the president, the ultimate executive authority. Someone somewhere would have to control enough firepower to be able to overcome that executive authority.
Who is going to challenge the ultimate authority in the universe, and have the power to haul him in front of the jury that isn’t rigged, and have that jury actually capable of rendering a verdict?
How does any of the above happen, when the president of the United States may as well be the god emperor of all human activity?
Blatant is the key word. They are so high on their own narrative that they don’t even try to hide their corruption anymore. After their downfall, we’ll have plenty of material to indict & ultimately lock them away with.
Who’s this “we”? You can’t use a corrupt system to solve the corrupt system, the corruption involves the legal system (remember who is designing and passing the laws!) and the law enforcement officers. So if you want to have the power to lock them away, you’re going to have to organize with fellow citizens to develop worker power outside of the state.
I could be wrong and I admit that I don’t have as a firm grasp of US politics as I’d like, but I really cannot see a situation where anyone is going to be able to control Trump to the point that which they might be able to get him from front of a jury. I can’t see that happening without some level of conflict. He’s already talking about a third term, the only way that doesn’t happen is a rebellion, or him having a heart attack or something.
It’s still a huge jump to actually succeed in a third term. Maybe I’m naive but even in the face of blatant flouting the law, I can’t see that happening
But at least as importantly, Trump is nearing the end of his life. Supreme Court has already covered him with blanket immunity: treason is fine as long as it’s official business, corruption is fine, violating the constitution is fine, personal enrichment by exploiting the government is fine. He’s probably out of the reach of justice, except for the voice of history.
But all the minions holding themselves above the law to do evil are only protected because of Trump. They can’t buy a pardon from an ethical president, and even Republicans can be ethical. Their time for running amuck is coming to the end. There’s still every chance they will face justice for their crimes.
And even where they’re not actual crimes, I’m sure Republicans will rediscover their “ethics” when it’s a Democrat President who could act similarly. They will actually help restore order, for fear of leopards eating their faces
The current regime will collapse, one way or another, sooner or later. Then we’ll get them all in front of judge and/or jury and it’ll all be slam dunk thanks to the material they themselves provided.
Of course I’m hoping this all happens before any of them dies of old age.
Their goal is to make sure that when they go down there is no one left to hold them accountable. They’re making sure everyone else goes down before them. This regime will never be held accountable, Trump should be in jail right now and the government and the courts all decided that would be unfair to the poor orange billionaire who never emotionally matured beyond a whiny spoiled child who is bitter that the other kids don’t like him and is determined to make them pay instead of learning how to get along and share his toys.
I don’t have your faith.
Nothing in the last decade has given any indication that the US has the ability or inclination to deal with this.
Cowardly delayed until he got re-elected, but the USA came this close 🤏 to jailing Trump, and even so, he is a felon now. That’s not nothing.
But please don’t call my glass-not-completely-empty attitude “faith”
The American system has the president be the ultimate authority. In order to face any kind of justice someone would have to deny that authority.
He is in effect a dictator, as bad as in Russia or North Korea, someone would have to have the balls and the executive authority to be able to hold him to account. Right now he is the president, the ultimate executive authority. Someone somewhere would have to control enough firepower to be able to overcome that executive authority.
Who is going to challenge the ultimate authority in the universe, and have the power to haul him in front of the jury that isn’t rigged, and have that jury actually capable of rendering a verdict?
How does any of the above happen, when the president of the United States may as well be the god emperor of all human activity?
But didn’t we all say the same things the first time around? Dead to say, but nothing stuck then, and nothing will stick now.