Is this gerrymandering? I’m not sure I understand.
Anyhow, even pro-democrat gerrymandering would be a plus at this point. Until it can be abolished completely.
The main webpage for Prop 50 says that the gerrymandering that will come prior to the California 2026 midterm elections is a direct response to Republicans’ gerrymandering in Texas to gain 5 more seats in the House of Representatives. This gerrymandering would not happen if Republicans didn’t do it first.
Prop 50 also says that these new election districts will be nullified in 2030 with the new US Census.
Yes, it is fully gerrymandering. There is no other term for it.
It sucks but we had to do it. I voted yes, mainly since it plans to self terminate and aims to stop Texas, who didn’t let it’s citizens vote on the same issue.
Yes, the idea came from countering Trump’s gerrymandering push in Texas.
And I’m like 99% sure Texas didn’t get to vote on this matter. At least we did.
Yeah. Feels bad to vote for something like this, but if it’s between fighting dirty and living with fascism, well… I’m glad we passed it.
Is this the first time you’ve run into this initiative…?
Democrats should fight fire with fire!!
Fuck that, we should be fighting fire with God damn napalm.
Kyle had a fantastic segment on this : https://youtu.be/QnOu0kDW-Kw
Disadvantages of Gerrymandering:
- the number of representatives for each party elected do not match the population’s actual preferences.
- reduced competetion between political parties means the population’s needs receive less attention.
Disadvantages of a one party dictatorship:
- The number of representatives for each party elected do not match the population’s actual preferences.
- Absent competetion between political parties means the population’s needs receive no attention.
- no checks and balances means no bill of rights exists.
- no checks and balances also means no regulation to protect the population’s needs.
- possible human extinction in nuclear winter.
Because disenfranchising people is the solution to disenfranchising people. But who knows - this may be the least bad option.
They’re welcome to leave and move to a red state. I left a red state and went to a blue one last year. They can do it too.
So gerrymandering good if it’s Our Team™?
In this case, unfortunately, yes. It also cancels after the next census in 2030 and control is handed back to the committee. The expiration date is the only reason I voted yes.
They did it first and the only way to fight it is to do the same with this type of thing. We will have no democratic power if we don’t fight election rigging
Prisoners dilemma, but in this case we’ve already seen how the other prisoner (Texas) has acted. Should we take 3 years while they go free? Or make it 2 and 2?
As a general rule, gerrymandered district is only “safe” from partisan rivals. What we’ve seen in GOP gerrymandered districts is some hotly contested primaries - even primaries against incumbents - that produced a strain of conservatism that is less interested in national partisanship and more interested in appeasing the district’s primary voting base.
If you think Dem primary voters are frothing fascists who need to be bottled up and kept away from positions of power, then Prop 50 is bad news for democracy. But if you think Dem primary voters are reasonable and rational, with the wisdom to select leadership that can effectively govern and improve the country, then Prop 50 is good news.
No, it’s not good. But we’re past caring about that.
It’s not good, but at this point, the President is pushing Republicans to redrawn districts to explicitly favor Republicans, which is explicitly illegal. He should be impeached for this, along with any Republicans who go along with it. But… With Republican control of all 3 branches of government, he will never be impeached and removed. At this point, fighting fire with fire is the only option left.
So no, it’s not good, it would just be way worse not to do it
So you’re fine with “find me more votes” trump asking for conservatives to redraw maps out of cycle, for the explicit reason to materialize out of thin air an advantage for the next election?
I’m not. There’s a reason why this is expected to give the exact number of seats as the new map of Texas.
