Because you realize you don’t need it anyway.
As a non IT person I find Linux way better for installing software. The sort of apps non IT people use. The Software store has most of what I need. There rest I install the Windows way. From a website. Apps with a Linux version almost always detect and offer a Linux button to click to install. I wouldn’t know what to do if that didn’t work. Ditch that application I guess. My distros are pretty standard. Not hacked about. My apps are not too weird. I’ve been doing it this way for 14+ years. Never needed the CLI either.
God bless flatpak for these cases
I honestly can’t remember the last time I’ve come across a package that I needed that so obscure that it wasn’t found somewhere as at the very least an appimage, if not a flatpak. I haven’t had to build from source in I don’t even know how many years now.
What? Its something I do quite regularly.
General use package? Sure Specialized package to do something specific in a specific field? Good luck.
I still have flashbacks of installing a c++ library which had to be transpired (or whatever the term is) to c# for another library to work, and having to go manually fix several function and type declarations manually to make it work. And we are talking about the golden standard library in the field…
I think it depends on the distro. Nixos is pretty bad for this if you want to try out a project that is really new. If you wait a month or two a flake usually comes out somewhere.
Glad im not the only one. Thats one thing that makes me go man, people will never leave windows for this, this is insanely complex to juat install a program.
I find it fun to learn tho
Windows; have to search online for correct website, sift through ads to find the download, install while avoiding malware or extra programs that try to install alongside.
Linux; Sudo pacman -S firefox. Done
This is true for some but it doesn’t work like that in reality. Its much easier to install on windows vs linux, thats just how it is.
Don’t even get started on flatpak vs .Deb vs compiling vs snap…explaining that to a windows user makes them about lose their mind.
Windows wins here. Click exe. Install. Done. AND the benefit of being allowed to install to a different hard drive, which linux will not allow without a ton of hoop jumping.
Linux is great but let’s not pretend windows doesn’t do certain things much better.
Also, not being able to see all your installed programs in one place because they are a blend of .Deb, snap, flatpaks, and compiled. It becomes a mess very quick if youre not careful.
It does work like that in reality for almost all programs.
For obscure stuff you can use yay or whatever other user repository you want.
yay “program name”. Done
I’ve been doing this for years without issue.
Also you can list all your installed programs. On Arch it’s pacman -Q and yay -Qm.
It’s so easy a baby could do it. And apparently arch is supposed to be the most difficult.
You’re forgetting, not every program in the world exists in your repository.
When they do, great, but doesn’t always happen. Make mkv for one, you have to get the linux version off their site custom.
Also it seems you may be one of those people driving people away from linux saying normies are idiots and need to rtfm. Maybe work on that.
See, your problems are of your own making. https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/makemkv
You are the only one driving yourself away from linux.
You resort to personal insults, then get blocked. Want advice? Stick to vtech.
if you use any modern distro installing most software is braindead easy. if you have to compile something yourself (which isnt that often) it can get quite funny because one hell of a lot can go wrong.
No System Package
Build System Package
Gentoo makes it soo easy.
When the dependencies need dependencies and then those dependencies need dependencies, the rabbit hole is endless!
Times like this are an argument for why it’s OK to occasionally reinvent the wheel.
Things have gotten so, so much better over the last 5 or 6 years.
Flatpak, appimage, docker are just brilliant.
I recently discovered nix and am in that honeymoon phase of trying to hit every nail with that hammer.
so true
and yeah i can confirm i’ve been using linux for 7 years…
All I see when I see this is “Linux isn’t quite ready for prime time”.
Hopefully it gets less and less true.
I don’t see that at all. This meme is referring to some niche application or to a person with their fingers all up in the nuts and bolts of their OS.
It’s common for beginner-friendly desktop distros to have Firefox and LibreOffice installed out of the box. For mainstream use that covers the vast majority.
This isnt true. You only have this problem with rather obscure software (which was what I tried to install)
Flatpak/flathub is your friend. I’ve been using Linux for 20+ years and I’m to a point where if it’s not available as a deb, flatpak, system package or at the bare minimum an executable binary/script I just don’t bother. Compiling should be done by the software vendor and not required of the user unless they specifically want or need to.
No, then you fix the code to work with your current system libraries and upstream the patch and version bump. This happens less on Arch, BTW ;-)
pfft. ln -s new_library.4.4.7 old_library.4.2.8
all done!
If it would be that easy. The problem I had was, that I installed a dependency using my package manager, but to compile my originally wanted software I had to provide a cmake file (of the dependency I installed via my package manager) to the compiler, which I of course did not have.
yeah that’s different
Different packages having conflicting dependency versions needed for installation
Edit: distrobox may be a viable solution to this
I at times have to install completely undocumented software. I love ccmake as it lists all available options. I guess there are other ways, but that makes it so easy.
Then it’s just a couple of days figuring out all necessary libraries.
