Let me get this straight; this guy was born into the richest family in Gotham. He has enough wealth that he can singlehandedly fund infrastructure changes, public healthcare, mental health resources, social services and rehabilitation. Instead, he uses his money to dress up like a bat so he can beat the shit out of people - and he’s supposed to be the hero??
This is a 100% fair criticism of my comment tbh. I do have a pretty surface level understanding of Batman, and I let my real life frustration with billionaires inform the points in my comment. I’ll take it easier on Bruce Wayne but fuck all other billionaires.
It’s an easy thing to assume is true because there is no such thing as a moral billionaire in real life which is why I always call it out.
That said, Bruce Wayne is a conflicted individual. He carries opposing beliefs and his actions regularly betray his cause. But I think that’s kind of the point. He’s deeply flawed and still haunted by childhood trauma which he hasn’t healed from
What comic run would you recommend that best illustrates this? My comment was more of a joke about ethical billionaires and capital worship, but I am genuinely interested in this angle if you have suggestions.
I don’t think there is a series that focuses on philanthropy, like I was saying it’s just kind of peppered in there because it’s boring content for a comic lol
This is probably a bad example - Frank Miller has a series where he tries stopping gun violence through outreach and policy. Not really mental health or poverty but that’s where that panel of Batman breaking a gun in half comes from.
Note: He does fund infrastructure rebuilding, public healthcare, mental health resources, social services, rehabilitation, etc.
Problem is that he also causes a significant amount of those problems himself. Going out in the middle of the night and giving a TBI to a low level thug isn’t the way of bringing the city back from the brink.
That being said, depending on the version of Batman it also depends on Gotham itself. The city is literally cursed and goes through shit constantly partially due to that. Gotham is just a home to evil.
All in all? This is why I like Batman Beyond more or the Flashpoint Paradox version of Bats.
May be in the fictional universe of Batman he attempts to be morally good, but I believe that there is no morally good billionaire regardless of the circumstances, so it seems to me an attempt to justify them in some particular cases, yet I think that it cannot hold that such concentration of power and resources can be morally good in a whole society ethos, the good tyrant only rises by unplanned luck and resolves immediately in wise redistribution, it cannot sustain in time.
Let me get this straight; this guy was born into the richest family in Gotham. He has enough wealth that he can singlehandedly fund infrastructure changes, public healthcare, mental health resources, social services and rehabilitation. Instead, he uses his money to dress up like a bat so he can beat the shit out of people - and he’s supposed to be the hero??
This is one of the worst commonly-parroted takes in all of comics and it always gets upvoted…by people who have never read a Batman comic.
He literally does all of the things…Rehabilitation is a major theme in Batman. Hell, it might be the MAIN theme lol
This is a 100% fair criticism of my comment tbh. I do have a pretty surface level understanding of Batman, and I let my real life frustration with billionaires inform the points in my comment. I’ll take it easier on Bruce Wayne but fuck all other billionaires.
You might prefer Absolute Batman. He lives lower middle class, works blue collar jobs, and still has his mom.
It’s an easy thing to assume is true because there is no such thing as a moral billionaire in real life which is why I always call it out.
That said, Bruce Wayne is a conflicted individual. He carries opposing beliefs and his actions regularly betray his cause. But I think that’s kind of the point. He’s deeply flawed and still haunted by childhood trauma which he hasn’t healed from
What comic run would you recommend that best illustrates this? My comment was more of a joke about ethical billionaires and capital worship, but I am genuinely interested in this angle if you have suggestions.
I don’t think there is a series that focuses on philanthropy, like I was saying it’s just kind of peppered in there because it’s boring content for a comic lol
This is probably a bad example - Frank Miller has a series where he tries stopping gun violence through outreach and policy. Not really mental health or poverty but that’s where that panel of Batman breaking a gun in half comes from.
It’s been shown to be so close to working that it probably would have if the Heel Face Revolving Door wasn’t necessary to sell comics
Note: He does fund infrastructure rebuilding, public healthcare, mental health resources, social services, rehabilitation, etc.
Problem is that he also causes a significant amount of those problems himself. Going out in the middle of the night and giving a TBI to a low level thug isn’t the way of bringing the city back from the brink.
That being said, depending on the version of Batman it also depends on Gotham itself. The city is literally cursed and goes through shit constantly partially due to that. Gotham is just a home to evil.
All in all? This is why I like Batman Beyond more or the Flashpoint Paradox version of Bats.
It’s the same guy that watched his parents die with a gun in front of his eyes and yet his biggest fear is bats.
Ohh, he has way more fears than that!
https://youtu.be/on4aD02llas
Yeah bbbbbuut he’s got a code.
May be in the fictional universe of Batman he attempts to be morally good, but I believe that there is no morally good billionaire regardless of the circumstances, so it seems to me an attempt to justify them in some particular cases, yet I think that it cannot hold that such concentration of power and resources can be morally good in a whole society ethos, the good tyrant only rises by unplanned luck and resolves immediately in wise redistribution, it cannot sustain in time.