• DarkFuture@lemmy.world
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    This is exactly why the 2nd amendment exists.

    Those of you who have served in the military and swore an oath to protect us from domestic enemies, please seriously consider honoring your oath before the rest of us have to do it for you.

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      when ice is coming to get me, no amount of weaponry will save me, all I’ll do is take some nazis with me.

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        I want to be very clear here. If they take you, at A MINIMUM, they will beat you, torture you, SA you, and deny you civil rights and human rights. At worst, you die. You want all these slack jawed jackasses that won’t raise holy hell about the government already doing this to immigrants, you’re dead anyway. ‘‘ICE kills US citizen’’ is a much stronger headline than ‘‘Trump says he will do this to citizens’’ additionally when the ICE agents have to deal with the fact that ‘‘just following orders’’ includes a high chance of death, they might question the orders.

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          This is important to remember

          Take down the Nazis with you because you have no choice or hope. You can’t reason with them

          They will deface you and disappear you. They will say you work for MS-13, that you’re a child pedophile, they will craft and manufacture evidence and they will disappear you to the concentration camps. They’ve already done this, they’re just going to continue

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        As others have said, if they take you to a second location, you could either die or end up in a gulag in another country, which is probably as good as being dead.

        May as well fight to the death. Make them pay for it. If you don’t you could end up wishing you had another opportunity to.

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          Exactly this. The fear of torture to death would make me fight back when they bust in. This reminds me to start carrying and leaving easy access to the shotgun at home

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        Absolutely true. They will also make shit up and deface your name anyways.

        Even if you were found innocent and released, the entire world would believe the US government and the US government would call you MS-13 or pedophile

        They wouldn’t correct that mistake. And you would be hard to even find a job, plus you would probably have cultists coming to kill you

        That is if they’d still don’t just send you to the concentration camps and have you murdered like they have done so far

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        Group up with others of the same opinion and go hang at some brown people’s houses. Don’t wait. Force the issue.

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            You need the people to come together. However that happens for you. Go eat with some folks you don’t know from minority communities. The internet tells me Americans eat out a lot. Go to ethnic restaurants. Meet their families. Offer to help them buy guns to defend themselves. Defend them yourself openly and without shame. Put your own comfort in jeopardy for someone you don’t know.

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      Wow, nothing like a shove forward as you step back right? I got news for you buddy, this isn’t the kind of thing just a few people can fix. The country actually elected him. We need to build a movement to fight this, to prevent the country from just electing the next one.

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        I bet when “ice” agents start meeting resistance in the form of 9mm and .45 it will make some changes.

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      I would never ask someone else to risk their lives for me. I think we all need to figure out where our red line is - for me it would be a successful attempt to keep serving in a third term, or actually successfully deporting/imprisoning US citizens without due process. Merely trying or talking about it isn’t enough because if the constitutional process stops him, that means it’s still working.

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        non American here. the red line was January 6th. Don’t wait to see if more boxes are checked, every autocracy in history relied on people planning to resist when things ‘really’ got worse. By then it’s always too late. They’re planning accordingly.

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        Maybe, just maybe, we should stop the known arsonist - who has declared they are going to burn all our houses down and is now gleefully walking to our neighborhood with a can of gasoline and a blow torch - before they get to the first house