• EtAl@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    Apparently, Israel hacked phones in Gaza to blast out Netanyahu’s speech as he was giving it. If that had happened in the Superman movie, the audience would have said that’s a bit too comic book villainous.

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    Imagine a world where the US respected the International Criminal Court and this man was arrested the minute he set foot on American soil.

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      Ok, so hear me out. The ICC is a UN body. The UN headquarters is international soil. Why couldn’t the UN security services arrest him and send him to stand trial at the ICC?

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        Because of this the American Service Members Protection Act

        The act gives the president power to use "all means necessary and appropriate to bring about the release of any U.S. or allied personnel being detained or imprisoned by, on behalf of, or at the request of the International Criminal Court.

        This authorization led to the act being nicknamed “The Hague Invasion Act”, since the act would allow the president to order military action in The Hague, the seat of the ICC, to prevent American or allied officials and military personnel from being prosecuted or detained by the ICC.

        The subsection (b) specifies this authority shall extend to “Covered United States persons” (members of the (“Armed Forces of the United States”), elected or appointed officials of the United States Government, and other persons employed by or working on behalf of the United States Government) and “Covered allied persons” (military personnel, elected or appointed officials, and other persons employed by or working on behalf of the government of a NATO member country, a major non-NATO ally including Australia, Egypt, Israel, Japan, Argentina, the Republic of Korea, and New Zealand).

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    I’m so sick of all of the performative grandstanding. Grab this fucker and throw him in a deep hole. Nice walkout guys, you really showed him.

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    By contrast the wanted war criminal Benjamin Netanyahu received over FIFTY standing ovations when he addressed the US Congress last year.

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    i’m going to say something that i’m sure people are going to hate and i may be banned for saying it. buts its just an opinion based on decades and decades of history…

    If Israel doesn’t finish this now, it is just going to happen again. Its painful to watch, but its the truth. Netanyahu is an ass, but he’s right. A two state solution is a fantasy pipe dream that will never ever work.

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      Ah, yes, because there’s only two options: a two state solution or the complete extermination of the entire Palestinian population. Is it really so difficult to imagine one state with equal rights for all? It’s not going to be easy getting there after all that’s taken place, but it is the only path to justice.

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      By that logic, Hitler/Nazis should have finished the job too so there would be world peace. If millenia of history and the present is anything to go by, nations keep going to war with each other, so coexistence will never work in the long term.

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          You can’t act like Israel was just peacefully minding its own business when Hamas attacked. Israel was founded by ethnic cleansing and had been slowly trying to finish the job for decades by forcing Palestinians into smaller and smaller areas, taking control of their utilities and resources, and depriving them of their rights. Oct. 7th gave Israel an excuse to escalate what they had already been doing.

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            I love how you guys try to push this dishonest argument that everything started in 1948. It did not. Things happened before that. There was violence on both sides, with full blown pogroms breaking out in 1920, 1921, and 1929. Arabs were offered a much bigger chunk of the region, they refused it because they wanted all of the land which would have meant the eradication of the jews in the region, much as has occurred elsewhere throughout the middle east. The Jews fought back with Israel and people like you just don’t seem to like it.

            I’m so tired of getting in this repeated argument about this very same thing with people like you who just refuse to acknowledge history before 1948. The history matters, no matter how much you want to try to ignore it.

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              Jews and arabs have always lived in the region. The notion that an ethnostate is necessary because it’s the only way for them to be safe is a propaganda myth and also inherently illogical.

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                what the hell are you talking about? look at the jewish populations in nearly every single country in the middle east compared to what they were at the beginning of the 20th century.

                I will block anyone who tries to be this disingenuous with their statements. You aren’t worth my time.

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                  “Jews and Muslims can’t coexist and it’s all the Muslims’ fault, that’s why we have to force Muslims off their land and establish a Jewish ethnostate. We have a right to it anyway because god gave it to us or whatever. How dare they fight back!”

                  This is your argument, and we are the ones being disingenuous?

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          The comparison I’m making is to Nazi Germany’s war for global domination. So yes, there was Jewish armed resistance in occupied Europe. Now, I don’t condone Hamas’s massacre of civilians and hostage taking. I do believe Palestinians have a right to armed resistance in the face of Israel’s control over Palestinian sovereignty and the continued extreme injustices they’ve been inflicting on Palestinians collectively.

          I was pointing to a distinction in the logic of “rightness”. If you ignore morality, then yes, eradicating a population will effectively stop groups within it from continuing to attack you in the future. However, with morality, genocide is wrong. It’s the same reason why wiping Israel off the map would finish things and end the IDF’s war crimes. However, it would still be morally wrong.

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      Israel has militarily attacked 6 different countries in the last few weeks. So what exactly is the scope of what they supposed to finish?

      Fascists do not stop at any point because they cannot. Their power is predicated on eternal war. Not even achieving their insane plan for a “greater Israel” would be enough. The radicalisation based on fear and supremacy does not end when an arbitrary goal is achieved. They absolutely must be stopped.

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        Twenty minutes is about how long a normal person can be reasonably expected maintain attention, even if the content is interesting. That’s why TED talks are 20 minutes long.

        On the other hand, Trump’s rants are mind numbing. You’re either seriously trained at listening, or you have something wrong with your brain, if you can listen to him for more than 2 minutes without zoning out.

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    It would be great if they all just recognized Palestine as a country and cut all trade with Israel immediately until they stopped. Instead of a symbolic walk out, actually walk out of their lives… And you can verify if they cut their shit out

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    Really wish the UN had some kind of method to stop counties from clearly and openly committing genocide

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    Tony Blair to rule Gaza for five years. What the fuck is that weird ass fan fiction of reality!? XD