Attorneys for Luigi Mangione asked a judge to stop federal prosecutors from seeking the death penalty against their client, saying the U.S. government “intends to kill Mr. Mangione as a political stunt.”
The motion filed Friday in the U.S. District Court of the Southern District said U.S. Attorney General Pam Bondi ordered the death penalty to “carry out President Trump’s agenda to stop violent crime and Make America Safe Again.”
Mangione, 26, who faces state murder and terrorism charges in New York, along with federal murder and stalking charges, is accused of murdering United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson last year in New York City.
He won’t be getting a jury of his peers. It will be a corrupt kangaroo court
Remember, if you’re selected for jury duty and you know what Jury Nullification is, NO, YOU DO NOT.
Jury Nullification? I’ve never heard of it, never once, not even in that popular CPG Grey video.
Isn’t it illegal to lie as a jury member?
I’m the current administration, what is even legal?
That’s a huge point of fascism, they like vague and unclear laws, then you can start justifying harm to anyone.
Remember, if you’re selected for jury duty for a case against a former juror who lied about knowing what Jury Nullification is and you’re asked if you know what Jury Nullification is, NO, YOU DO NOT.
There is the right answer, and there is the correct answer. Give the correct answer. Please don’t fall for this shit that the people in places of power are playing by the rules. They most certainly are not. Is the judge unbiased? In Reno we had a judge stop an approved home construction because he didn’t like that materials were shipped to the lot in sea cans. He lived on the same street. Judges have repeatedly around the country told jurys they are to find the defendant guilty. Police will intentionally tell you things they believe no one else knows about a crime screen, then ask you about it, then when you discuss it on record they ‘‘forget’’ that they told you that off record.
Give the correct answer. And if they say ‘‘oh really well… God’s watching!!’’ Go ahead and say you’re sure the correct answer is correct. And if they say ‘‘here’s proof you have heard of it’’ remember that ‘‘I don’t recall’’ and no other information has kept a lot of very clearly guilty people out of jail for hundreds of years.
Also the whole reason there is a jury?
To counteract the system that one person is the deciding factor. People are imperfect, bribable, blackmailable, make mistakes and have biases.
I have biases, i know some of them and others i am blissfully unaware of, but they are there.And i bet there are a LOT of things about how the system works that lawyers and judges know, but us regular people dont so if we do have an advantage they dont know about then i dont see why we arent allowed to use that tool at our disposal.
They won’t ask you directly about that. What they’ll ask you directly about is whether or not you have any preconceived notions or opinions that would prevent you from deciding fairly. They don’t tell you what fairness means, they expect you to use your own definition.
How would they know you lied about it?
Who knows, maybe they found a video blog you made when you were 12 and its, in one of your dad’s books behind you.
For me specifically, that would be impressive since I was 12 in 1988.
Where did you hear the phrase “jury nullification”?
If the principal is used but not the words then it can be denied.
Off topic, so sorry about that… but is there a list of people maintained somewhere that will absolutely never be called for jury duty? If so, I suspected that I’m on it. I thought that by now (age 41), I’d have at least gotten a summons or something to show up at least once. I’ve never even been asked to show up.
I don’t think so. It’s up to the defense and prosecution to veto a possible juror. Not the court itself.
i know some dont, basically leos, family of LEO, lawyers,paralegals are the least likely to get called into jury service, due to thier knowledge of the courts, which might make hard to convince one side over the other. secondly PHDs, MDs are least likely to be selected due to thier professional training at overanalyzing things. these are the people least likely to be chosen, but not 100%. ever since i started voting ever election, ive gotten once a year, sometimes multiple times a year for summons. They look at your voter registration, dmv records.
i once showed for the first time when i was in CC, only because i had school and couldnt have a later date, i was lucky they had no cases that day. ive been mostly dismissed every other time. (one time i forgot).
Either it’s make america great or safe again, the “america” is never the citizens, it’s always the 1%, notice that?
Definitely. Things politicians say make a lot more sense when you realize that code speak.
It kind of always has been this way. “The people,” “Americans,” “White people,” etc have always been defined arbitrarily, and always in American history have referred to wealthy landowners who adhered to a puritan work ethic and a supposed “Anglo-Saxon” culture.
It’s so sad seeing the poor and lower middle class thinking that it is about them.
even worst that poc, and lgbtq+ think they are one of them too, unless your evil and thiel"rich" you are not one of thier ingroups.
I want absolutely fucking everyone to stop calling it an assassination.
Words have meaning.
This was a murder. Let’s not elevate CEOs to the status of the House.
Does mass self defense count as murder? I guess so, it just is so secondary. This is the easiest trolley problem.
Grand epics are made about toppling villains who committed far less harm than stealing, leeching, murdering, torturing health insurance companies.
But luigi didn’t do it. He was with me playing video games in altiona
Who said Luigi???
Not me!
he was in canada at the time.
By definition, it was an assassination.
Assassination is the willful killing, by a sudden, secret, or planned attack, of a person—especially if prominent or important. It may be prompted by political, ideological, religious, personal, financial, or military motives.
Yeah you’re doing the thing where you elevate a CEO to that of a person of prominence and imprtantce.
That’s oligarchy shit.
Homeboy was a rich fuck with a job and kids, and he got murdered. Seemingly in cold blood.
Not assassinated.
Yeah. You’re doing the thing where you change the definition of a thing to that of something that better matches your personal opinion of it.
Assassination is the willful killing, by a sudden, secret, or planned attack, of a person—especially if prominent or important. It may be prompted by political, ideological, religious, personal, financial, or military motives.
I highlighted the words that are synonymous with a CEO of one of the largest insurance companies to ever exist.
Yeah. He was not important.
Not an assassination.
An overpaid guy with a job.
Murdered.
Yeah. You’re doing the thing where you change the definition of a thing to that of something that better matches your personal opinion of it again.
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Now you’re doing the thing where you resort to personal attacks against people who disagree with your off-hand way of defining things to suit your narrative.
Not before he was able to purposefully take thousands of innocent people with him so he could still have the dollas.
Feels like this case is less about justice and more about setting an example—whether that’s political or public theater. Death penalty or not, the timing and narrative definitely feel curated.
it was apparent it was more political, and example the moment the witchhunt began. especially with the clown adams escorting his perpwalk.
The first time i saw that perp walk photo, it had a caption like “Jesus walking to appear before Pilate, accompanied by the Roman Praetorian Guard.” And that was EXACTLY what it looked like.
I love it when their clumsy propaganda gets stolen by the Resistance.
Absolutely. This will be a show trial that will eclipse even the OJ trial, and will lead to a lot of civil unrest, whether he’s found guilty or not.
He’s so dreamy, my Luigi could do no wrong
Don’t most prosecutors go for the throat assuming the defense will attempt to plea-down?
This could just be them just trying to get them to settle for a life-sentencing?
What you said is true some of the time. In this particular situation I don’t think it’s accurate. I think the prosecution really does want to execute the guy, because they don’t like the example set. They don’t like the notion of random white American men taking out CEOs. The prosecution wants to protect their rich friends.
Also, prosecutors have an ethical responsibility to not bring charges or punishments that they don’t think fit. In other words, if they want to try to get the death penalty, they have to actually believe that the evidence justifies asking for it. Ethically they are not allowed to throw every charge at the defendant and see what sticks. In reality, prosecutors ignore the ethical rules that they are sworn to uphold on a regular basis, and only rarely to judges regulate them for it.
if they botched the arrest, which they did, it wont be in his best interest, especially it became political too.
