Charlie Kirk confirmed dead.

  • Snot Flickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    Why the fuck is Donald Trump the one announcing his death?

    Does that stink of this being a false flag and Kirk was chosen as an expendable to anyone else??

    I am not at all convinced the shooter was a leftist or liberal.

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      It was a truly wildly impressive shot. One single shot taken over 200 yards away through a very limited angle that made an instant-kill hit, and no suspect in custody? Hmm…

      It is extremely convenient that this happened immediately after the publication of the Epstein birthday book.

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        Like Trump needs distraction. He could breathe slightly funny or his hands could turn a different shade of purple and the news circus would move on from the birthday book tomorrow, which doesn’t even confirm anything we didn’t already know.

        Killer was well-prepared and a good shot, unlike the weirdo who tried to take out Trump. The only unusual thing is that people who have the mental acumen to actually pull something like this off and not get caught immediately tend to be mentally stable enough not to attempt something like that.

        But times are a-changing and political violence in the US is going to get a lot worse before it gets better. People forgot that the Rule of Law and Social Contract were meant not just as ways to prevent conservatives from implementing ethnic/religious fundamentalism, but also to prevent this exact kind of thing happening. Trump is at the helm of a government he seemingly distrusts, whose own rules he constantly breaks or ignores, whose institutions he actively sabotages, whose fundamental principles he spits on. As a consequence trust in all three branches of government is crumbling, which inevitably legitimizes political violence as a last resort vector of change.

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      There’s no way they would shut down a propaganda powerhouse like that. It’s tempting to go down the conspiracy rabbit hole, but the vast majority of times it’s really the simple explanations that count.

      It honestly could be as simple as “a school shooting victim’s relative wants revenge against the speaker who ridiculed their tragedy.”

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          I don’t know, 3" (or so) grouping at 200 yards under those conditions is objectively hard. I don’t know anyone in my personal life that I think could make that shot

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            An ex army friend of mine said he’d be expected to make that shot with iron sights at 300m if he had an M4 after a year of training.

            Not to say every backyard marksman is army trained, but it doesn’t sound improbable.

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            Doesn’t need to be a 3" grouping. Could have just gotten lucky. Could have been aiming center mass or for the head and wildly missed. But also he wasn’t moving and 200 yards with a properly sighted in scope isn’t too different from 100 yards and a properly sighted in scope.

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              Yeah, my guess was actually that they were aiming for his head (easier to get a clear shot at through a crowd, because center mass would likely be obscured by other people around him) and missed.

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            Yeah. But there’s what 350 million of y’all?

            If you know fewer that 350 people well enough to know how well they shoot… then you might still know someone good enough to make the shot but don’t know that they are.

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      I wouldn’t be surprised if it was someone just more right wing than him who took issue with “softer” stances, like not murdering trans people in the streets and only criminalising them.

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      Or the Whitehouse kept an open line with the hospital and Trump lacks the decency to let the family make the announcement on their own terms.

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      I’m betting the shooter is a pizza gater and got upset Charlie stopped talking about the Epstein files or something like that