The move would make Florida the first U.S. state to withdraw from mandates credited with boosting vaccination rates and preventing infectious disease outbreaks.
  • CraigimusPR1M3@lemmy.mlEnglish
    27·
    10 days ago

    I did an essay on vaccines in Jr. High, 20-25 years ago. I was writing a persuasion essay and I chose vaccines. I always try to provide views from both sides… even back then. As a child, in fucking Jr. High, I found Andrew Wakefield’s study that linked autism and vaccines, found all the evidence against it, found out he lost his medical license for it, and realized “wow, there really is no argument against vaccines. These people are fucking idiots!” Again at the age of 12 ish… fucking anti-vaxxer dipshits…

    • OccamsRazer@lemmy.worldEnglish
      1·
      7 days ago

      Vaccines are good as long as they are proven to work, and as long as they are effective enough to be worth the side effects and risks. Big pharma needs to be held accountable and kept honest, because they would definitely try to sell you vaccines that are not necessary or not effective if they could get away with it. It shouldn’t be an all or nothing question.

      • CraigimusPR1M3@lemmy.mlEnglish
        1·
        7 days ago

        Go do the research yourself. Vaccines are proven to work. Over, and over, and over again. The side effects are so incredibly rare they might as well be non-existent. Go do some actual fucking research, there is no argument against vaccines. The covid vaccine was in development for 20+ years due to SARS. That’s how it was able to be pushed out so quickly. Go look at all the infectious diseases that are on the rise because dipshit mother fuckers aren’t getting vaccinated or their kids. Its fucking stupid…

        • OccamsRazer@lemmy.worldEnglish
          1·
          7 days ago

          I worked in pharma for ten years. Vaccines work, but some work better than others. There have been many vaccines that were pulled after emergency use approval or because the side effects were not worth the disease that they were trying to prevent. Or like the flu vaccine used to make you mildly sick for a few days, but then you still got the flu because they guessed the wrong strain. You can’t just scream that vaccines work to people who have first hand experience with them not working. Otherwise you risk losing their trust in ALL vaccines. This is a big part of why we have a resurgence in the anti vaccine movement. Anyone who has actually researched knows that the topic of vaccines is more complicated than “vaccines good”.

          • CraigimusPR1M3@lemmy.mlEnglish
            1·
            6 days ago

            But that is exactly why you can trust them… because they get pulled when its not worth it. You’re correct in that there’s much more nuance than just vaccine=good, but with the totality of the evidence and procedures it can be pretty simply stated with vaccine=good

            • OccamsRazer@lemmy.worldEnglish
              1·
              6 days ago

              If they have full fda approval, you can generally trust that they are more beneficial than otherwise. With vaccines that have been available and widely used for decades and even generations, there is basically no risk at all. But I understand hesitation with new vaccines, even if I am not worried about them myself. Most people can’t grasp the level of effort and proof it requires to get approval.

  • Treczoks@lemmy.worldEnglish
    13·
    10 days ago

    They will have lots of fun once they move out of there. If they get old enough in the first place.

    The US is already at the tail end of modern countries when it comes to dying children due to the horrible health care. They are doing everything they can to get even worse.

    • samus12345@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      4·
      10 days ago

      It started out as mostly pandering to their uneducated anti-vax base, but with fascists being in all levels of government now there are more conspiracy theorist true believers in office. So the dumber ones actually believe it, while the less dumb ones use it as a wedge issue to keep support (while being vaccinated themselves).

    • SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.caEnglish
      3·
      10 days ago

      The ideal model of the Fascist economy is get poors to pay taxes and then die when they can’t work any more.

    • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
      3·
      10 days ago

      I seriously think they want to reduce the population. And if you use disease and only allow the richest people to have access to vaccines, the poors and “undesirables” go first.

      I truly think that it’s that sinister.

  • TheLastOfHisName@lemmy.worldEnglish
    12·
    10 days ago

    Enjoy your polio, antivaxers.

    And don’t forget to buy stock in iron lung manufacturers. Gonna be a BIG spike in demand.

    • brognak@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
      3·
      10 days ago

      The last time I was visiting my parents in South Carolina we went to a local art faire thing, and one of the stands was a dude selling art of Confederates. Not just any Confederates, Black Confederates. And the dude selling this art, was a older black man in full fucking Confederate uniform. The best part was the massive bread boards he had full of tiny font Confederate apologia that read like a SovCit manifesto.

      Don’t think the color of a person’s skin naturally dictates their opinions on matters that you think it should, people will surprise you every time.