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    6 months ago

    As a man who used to have long hair for decades, this is just wrong. But also, usually using more than one shampoo + one conditioner is not going to make much difference.

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    My brother spent a week using dog shampoo because he forgot to buy new shampoo. Hair looked the same

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      I prefer those too as the regular soap based shampoo leaves my hair very dry and electrostatic, and my scalp flaking. Well, I use baby shampoo, but dog shampoo is chemically almost the same.

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    Counterpoint: look at any rock band from the 1970s to see what just plain washing with shampoo (very occasionally, apparently) produces. If they ever invent time travel, I’m going to let everybody else handle killing baby hitler (and baby cheetoh I suppose) and go back to the '70s with some conditioner. I will rule the rock world!

    Edit: I might also try at least mentioning to people how fucked up it was that these guys were raping 14-year-old girls all the time (and sometimes the same 14-year-old girl).

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    6 months ago

    Length and type of hair is what matters. Men with a typical short haircut with straight hair do not benefit from conditioner.

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      As a man with straight hair that is usually on the shorter side I can tell you I get a distinct difference between shampoo only, and shampoo then conditioner. I get a similar effect from 2 in 1 that I just use that… I notice a benefit from 2 applications though (people will actively comment on how soft it looks and ask if I did something different), it is diminished after 2 though.

      I try to only wash my hair a few times a week though when it feels too greasy (longer it gets the quicker this happens) and water isn’t enough, usually don’t bother with the double wash though.

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        Yes, it certainly isn’t universally true that not all short hair needs conditioner but it is more universally true that long hair does which is why women have more hair products.

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          I feel marketing is a not insignificant difference as well. But if it helps people feel better about themselves who cares.

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    As a man with frizzy, dry and curly hair. I have to say “doubt” on the dishwashing liquid.

    More like “get that fat-solvant out of my sight, or you’re gonna get it”. No shampoo, only conditioner and you barely rinse it.

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    Part of the solution is actually not washing your hair too much, or using too much product.

    Your scalp naturally produces a lot of oils etc to keep your hair healthy, and shampoo actually removes this to an extent. Conditioner helps, but it’s not the same.

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    It’s mainly to do with longer and seldom cut hair being a lot harder to keep healthy than shorter and often cut hair is.

    Being a man or woman doesn’t directly dictate the quality of one’s hair, rather in the current cultural environment it influences how long one’s hair is likely to be allowed to get before it’s cut (and how much it gets cut) which in turn influences how healthy one’s hair naturally is.

    Then there’s also the whole concern with one’s external appearence which again in present day culture is also different in average for men and women, with the latter under more social pressure to look well groomed.

    Plenty of guys out there with long hair have to go to a lot of trouble to make it look healthy when they actually try to.

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    I literally don’t use soap or conditioner in my hair except right before I get it cut. They are always like “wow! You have such healthy hair!” Your hair will take care of itself.

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    Yeah, men also don’t have long hair. Women use proper shampoo because they have long hair which has to stay in good condition for way longer.

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        Ok I’ll bite.

        Men with long hair either have shit hair, like I did when I had long hair, or they use multiple shampoos and conditioners, like my metal friends do.

        Lets not do this gatekeeping shit.

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          Genetics and other factors play a roll. I have long hair and am male. I use a cheap shampoo 3 times a week and a conditioner once a month. I find the most important thing is brushing regularly to keep it looking good and spread the natural oils around.

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    Dishwashing liquid? That’s just good bedhead.

    Well, technically, good bedhead is something much more satisfying, but I hope y’all get my drift.

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    For me it didn’t matter what I used, until I tried growing it out and trying long hair. Frizzy hair horrors, until I figured out what hair care process worked for me.

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    I never expected there were so many other long haired men here secretly dealing with hair issues! I thought I’d been dealing with this alone the last few years since I decided to stop buzzcutting myself. Now I wish we had a more active hair community. Not necessarily male only, as this post seems to show we have “human hair” and not “guy hair” or “girl hair.”

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    Why do people put so much energy into projecting identity politics on a superfluous detail like hair? Who cares? It’s all just a vanity concern, selfishly obsessed with what others think about how you look.

    Does your hair make you have some intrinsic identity to others that you are or are not going for? Fuck you, I don’t care.

    Do you authentically care, yourself?

    Maybe you care about the politics - I can understand that. There is legitimate fear around legislating serious, dangerous things to your identity (not hair). Why the fuck are you spending your time and energy on hair???

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      Do you care about your appearance in any capacity or do you just roll out of bed and go on with your day?

      If so, why the fuck are you spending your time and energy on your appearance?

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        I do, of course. I even do my hair. I didn’t mean to imply that one should not care about it hygienically, just for your own health and personal self image.

        I just don’t understand the urge to thrust gender identity onto hair style and then argue about what that means to the polity online.