Details of post-summit call were leaked in which US president supports plan for Kyiv to give up Donbas region
Donald Trump will back a plan to cede unoccupied Ukrainian territory to Russia to secure an end to the war between the two countries, it was reported on Saturday, after details of his post-summit call with European leaders leaked out.
Trump told European leaders that he believed a peace deal could be negotiated if the Ukrainian president, Volodymyr Zelenskyy, agreed to give up the Donbas region, which Russian invaders have not been able to seize in over three years of fighting, the New York Times reported, citing to two senior European officials.
Two sources with direct knowledge of the talks in Alaska told the Guardian that Putin demanded Ukraine withdraw from Donbas, which is made up of the Donestk and Luhansk regions, as a condition for ending the war, but offered Trump a freeze along the remaining frontline.
Next Putin will claim Alaska used to be Russian, and should be handed back.
There’s some nutjobs in the Duma who have already said that. Though this should be taken the same way as when some nutjob in the US House says something. Probably nothing will come of it, but occasionally, it does.
Child raping fucktard
To hell with trump and putin, no glory in anything they do, abusing their own country
It’s comically and frustratingly obvious that his “ideas” are simply “whatever the last guy he talked to said”
Yup. If you had Trump’s ear for a few minutes, he is incredibly easy to manipulate.
Yup, upcoming summit with Zelenskyy and the EU, and his tone will change after that.
No, Trumps team will insist on going forward with the deal they arranged with Vlad. Europe (which includes Ukraine) will say fuck that, and team Trump will then use it as political ammo to justifiy more tarriffs and more energy into the Asia pivot. IE they will say they’re pulling out and leaving Russia to have its fun.
When trump met with Zelenskyy in the Vatican he changed his tune real quick. I guess we will see how it goes.
He who drinks with the enemy while his ally bleeds is no hero but a fool. You grant him honor while he seeks to burn your and your ally’s home. No word of peace holds meaning while his sword is still raised against those who stand with you.
Install troops in Ukraine and show Putin already god damn it. That makes putin mad? Good that will make EU more unified. And its not like putin is gonna drop nuclear bombs cause thats suicide :) So bring him to his knees.
So I think I missed something? Why is Trump thinking he has a say in this?
Since if Ukraine don’t listen, US will cut off military aid.
Which unfortunately, Ukraine need since no one else can provide the numbers and TACO would likely even block EU and AU from buying US weapons if they were intended for Ukraine.
Meanwhile he’s giving away Alaska to Putin.
It was obvious three days ago, but it’s painfully obvious now why Trump has initiated quasi martial law in DC.
If he actually gave Alaska to Russia, the Republican majority in the Senate would be down to one seat. The House is a little harder to quantify, because Alaska has one seat that would be reaportioned somewhere, but it wouldn’t help their thin House majority much, either.
Also, I’m pretty sure Alaska would say fuck you, we’re an independent nation now. Russia could do fuck all about it. Their military is already at the breaking point, they don’t have a lot of capacity to land equipment across the sea, Alaska has a very well armed population, and the geography is ideal for insurgent tactics.
would he really refuse to sell something?!
Well, he’s a bitch, so yeah if his boss tells him so he’s too little of a man to stick up to him.
He’s a self important blowhard with delusons of adaquacy. That’s really all there is to it.
Because the usa is still the major military power and he is the president now.
What the hell do you expect when two criminals meet. Fuck Vlad and and his orange sock puppet. The EU and Ukraine already know they will have to contain the Russians without the MAGAt fuckers.
European intervention is looking like the only option now. because America is a captured state. there are only bad options now. and Europe is more than a year behind reality,
they sat on their hands hoping Kamala would win, and that they’d be allowed to continue offshoring their own defense matters to America, she didnt
so they sat on their hands hoping Trump wouldn’t be who everyone thought he would be, He was exactly what everyone thought he’d be.
so they sat on their hands hoping he would change with time. He didn’t, he accelerated his agenda and threw kerosone on the world by Parroting Putin, advocating Bibi, and Bombing Iran.
So they sat on their hands hoping he’d have a change of heart. And he rolled out the red carpet for the most honored guest, VVP.
Trump is an Ally of the Russian Mafia, Article 5 is already useless in terms of America, America wont go to war with Russia even if a KAB landed in Berlin tonight. Europe ought to consider their choices ahead.
Option 1 > Stop Bleating at America, Stop insisting that America Negotiate on Ukraines behalf in a specific way, and show some fucking teeth, and prepare for war.
Option 2 > Keep bleating at America, and accept Russia controls your politics now, and probably watch as your alliance disintegrates in 3 years when a military conflict breaks out in Latvia and no one wants to go to war with Russia.
Trump is an imbecile. His grave is going to be a gender neutral bathroom for the rest of human history.
I would use that bathroom.
I back ceding Donald Trump and Mar a Lago to Putin.
Only if we can send the building over to them. Maybe drop it right on top of Putin’s house.
This’ll be the second time they’ve taken territory from Ukraine and gotten away with it. They’ll probably take Belarus once that dictator dies, and they’ll eventually take Moldova since they already control part of it. They’ll keep trying to take all of Ukraine until it happens.
Belarus is already taken. Fully.
It benefits Russia to keep Belarus as a phoney, pretend sovereign state because its another vote and voice in international matters, it lends legitimacy to their arguments when they’re at a stage like the UN and fighting with whomever, to have a bunch of warlord states voting alongside them.
And don’t forget Georgia.
To be fair, appeasement worked quite well in the 1930s…
He was talking so tough before he saw his pimp, now he’s got his tail between his leg and he changed his tune
Okay, well, the last time I made this joke it came true, so I’m going to throw some salt over my shoulder after I say it, but how about instead of that, we just give Russia about 20,000 square miles of Alaska. We can start with the entirety of the Aleutian Island chain (about 6,800 sq. miles), and then work out some chunk of the mainland for the rest. That seems reasonable.
And if that does come true, then by God I’m going to go out and buy a lottery ticket.
If that comes true, I’ll also buy a lottery ticket, for the first time in my life, after 32 years of never gambling (despite having lived in Nevada for 30 years).
The important thing to remember is that Putin said Trump won the 2020 election though. Why is everyone so focused on this “Ukraine” thing?
This is the age of information overload. There is just too much to keep up with, and media can’t help themselves chasing trends so the algos actually hit them.
Ofc he does. Surprised he can even talk while gargling so much Russian balls…
