Just stick with Firefox and uBlock Origin.
Especially since Adblock Plus take payment to whitelist adverts.
Or even better, Librewolf.
Honest question, but what makes librewolf BETTER? In firefox you can easily toggle off the studies telemetry bullshit in the settings. Librewolf is just firefox with those things ripped out right?
In firefox you can easily toggle off the studies telemetry bullshit in the settings.
They’re abusing the default and making privacy settings require user intervention rather than defaulting to the most private settings and allowing the option of opting in.
It’s abusing consent, so people move to browsers where privacy is the default option.
This is what makes Librewolf better.
Yes. I consider it better because it’s preconfigured for privacy, includes UBlock Origin by default, and rips Mozilla’s telemetry out. So you never have to worry about them sneaking something new in a later update.
I’m more worried about the updates not happening in a timely fashion. Is it just a passion project by a handful of devs, or is there some kind of funding?
Update frequency/latency hasn’t been an issue in the 2 years I’ve been using it.
Sure, but what about in 2 years from now?
I used IronFox for a couple years and it suddenly stopped getting updates, and it took me a few months to realize and switch to something else. I don’t want that to happen again.
I like the idea of librewolf, especially that it’s just a patch set on top of Firefox, but someone needs to maintain that patch set. This would be fine for simpler software, but browsers are complex and I just worry that updates will stall out with little warning.
Certainly a valid concern, but it’s true with any software. I think enough people (techies especially) are using LibreWolf that a lack of updates would be visible quickly.
Two years is enough time for Firefox itself to cease to exist. Cross that bridge when you burn it
I’ve been using IronFox since it came out and I don’t think it has been out for 2 years yet… are you thinking of Mull from which it was forked when DivestOS stop being maintained?
Also, I’ve been using Librewolf since its early days too, and their updates are always only 1 to 2 days behind an updated Firefox. I know cuz ai update daily on my Artix Linux machine and have both browsers. Whenever Firefox is updated its usually the same day or a day later that Librewolf is also updated to the same version number.
I get the concern, but honestly the Librewolf devs have proven themselves at keeping pace with the upstream for quite a few years now. Hopefully the Ironfox devs can do the same.
as I understand their build system is automatic. updates are not, but they have an update checker companion thing, and flathub too can manage that if you install from there
I’m not a contributor to LibreWolf so I can’t speak with authority on it but I can’t imagine that they are so different from Firefox that they wouldn’t be able to just merge 99% of updates from FF with minimal effort.
From looking at the repo, it looks like it’s simply a set of patches that get applied to the Firefox source code. They don’t maintain a fork, just a set of changes that get applied before building.
Librewolf doesn’t just block Mozilla telemetry, it also has an easy to understand default for cookies and privacy settings so someone who isn’t a computer expert can rely on the librewolf’s defaults to keep trackers from being able to build a profile on you.
Sadly i have to stop using it. Librewolf has start getting some graphic bug, i also can’t upload pictures to some website (it show just lines). Now i’m trying Floorp.
This is caused by not allowing the website to access your html canvas data. You can fix this in the address bar by clicking the icon on the left of the URL to grant permissions.
To add to this.
This isn’t a bug, it’s a feature.
Canvas data gives a lot of datapoints that websites can use to fingerprint your browser. This allows them to track you across multiple sites even if you’re blocking ads and pi-holing tracking services.
There is an unavoidable tradeoff between convenience and security/privacy. Privacy features are inherently less convenient than allowing everyone access to everything.
You could disable canvas blocking globally (I’m assuming, I haven’t looked) and the problem would go away, but you’ve then weakened the privacy protections that were built in to the browser.
Have you noticed uBlock Origin being a bit hit and miss on YouTube lately? I’ve had it happen a few times lately where the video won’t play, or an ad comes up but doesn’t play. I’ve had to keep refreshing until it gets to normal where it just plays the damn video.
No. It works across all my systems. I never see ads on YT. However…
Videos not loading or playing delayed: That’s a YT feature which they implemented for Firefox users, to annoy them. And to promote Chrome as “the fastest” webbrowser.
I also have dns issues at home… I should fix them already. Sometimes, a page doesn’t load on the first try.
I experience the same issue. All the elements on the page load extremely slow or sometimes not at all.
If on mobile, try setting it to desktop mode. Also, getting the chameleon extension and pretending you are using chrome can also help.
I am not an expert so don’t quote me here, but I think there are ways of bypassing the agent switcher/spoofer (like chameleon) revealing the true browser you are using… that would actually make you MORE fingerprintable.
I haven’t had any issues like that, it’s been working fine for me
I use different shared PCs at work and this happens every time on the Windows 11 machines. Some ad plays before the video, but disappears when I refresh the page. This doesn’t happen on the Win 10 machines we still have left. In forced to use Chrome there but everything has UBlock Lite enabled.
dont give them solutions, they want to be angry
The article even links to a guide to get it on chrome
That said though, there is one ad blocker that still works. Two words: uBlock Origin. Yes, I know that Google has blocked it from its Chrome Extension store, but there is still a way to get uBlock Origin on Chrome that our how-to extraordinaire Kaycee has detailed.
Is this a sponsored article? Bc buying yt premium doesn’t seem like a workaround to me.
I think you stopped scrolling too early
That said though, there is one ad blocker that still works. Two words: uBlock Origin. Yes, I know that Google has blocked it from its Chrome Extension store, but there is still a way to get uBlock Origin on Chrome that our how-to extraordinaire Kaycee has detailed.
They even link to what I assume is that process.
But…
It costs the same as Spotify
I used Google Play music and it was awesome, when it shuttered I tried Spotify and didn’t like it.
YouTube premium is worth it just for music on your phone/car, getting YouTube ad free is kind of just a bonus. But there’s a couple podcasts I watch on there, and I’ve found a couple really good channels for all the crazy science stuff that’s been happening. Not to mention a lot of UK shows upload full episodes, and there’s more than one account that somehow uploads full runs of shows after being upscaled to 4k.
I really don’t understand why so many people are against YouTube premium. It makes sense if someone just pirates all their other media. But people pay for a music streamer and a couple TV streamers… It seems like an arbitrary line.
Edit:
The article is from “toms guide” not “toms hardware”.
The guide has every article like this where it reads like paid advertising. The “hardware” one is a good resource.
But yeah, pretty much anything from “tomsguide” is going to read like paid advertising for something. I legit don’t know if they’re affiliated or it’s a ripoff site built to confuse people with the “hardware” site.
I read that. But the way the article is written suggests that the workaround they’re implying is to buy YouTube premium. I am not per se against YT premium, after all its normal business to take money and serve a product, but what my biggest cons are
- The price
- I already use all of the mentioned premium features and more but for free
For example: YT music -> ReVanced (background play, no ads) YT App -> ReVanced (no ads, Sponsorblock, no shorts) YT on browser -> Extensions (uBlock, Sponsorblock, block yt shorts)
If I were to pay for premium and use the regular app, I would lose that functionality and 130€ per year. This money would support a company whose business model involves extensive collection of personal data, which is then sold to third parties, effectively contributing to the global surveillance infrastructure.
I would rather not use YouTube than pay for it.
My reasons:
- I don’t want a YouTube account, that just makes it easier for Google to track me
- premium costs too much relative to how much I use it (Nebula is more reasonable, which I do pay for)
- I can support my favorite creators in other ways (merch, patreon, etc)
I don’t pirate. I buy movies and TV shows and rip them to my media server, I buy lots of video games both physical and digital, and I buy books if my library doesnt have it or I want to keep it on my shelf. I’m not against paying for things, I’m against my privacy being violated.
I watch a few hours of content a week, and I’d be happy cutting down a bit. I don’t follow any of the big names, rarely listen to music, and really only watch videos from a handful of channels, most of which are a waste of time anyway. If Google blocked my ad blocker, I’d be fine just not watching YouTube anymore.
$14 is too much, I think $5 is about as much as I’d be willing to pay, or $1/channel. Give me that and I’ll consider signing up, despite my misgivings about Google.
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The thing about it costs about the same as Spotify is not really true. I have been using Spotify family for a long long time (maybe 10 years). I use it with 5 other “family” members and we split the costs.
About YouTube premium :
- I don’t like the idea of spending money for Google. I don’t find it very ethic to use their services in the way I do but no replacement has come up for years. I try to mitigate by donating to some content creators and I would love to pay a subscription to something like Nebula if there were at least 3 people I follow in there.
- I would use an adblocker even if I paid. On my phone Tubular is just a much better experience : multi platforms, aggregates my subscription, no addictive low quality suggestions and lightweight while still featurefull (and it integrates sponsorblock 🤫)
Also on my previous phone the YouTube app was super slow and would regularly crash because of RAM shortages. This was 6 years ago though.
Tom’s Hardware, Ad Block Plus, paying for YouTube Premium as a “work around”?
Guys this content was by boomers for boomers
Guys this content was by boomers for boomers
Tom’s Hardware sold out looong ago, sold in 2007 to some faceless consortium. The original “Tom”, Thomas Pabst, who is GenX and not a boomer btw, has had nothing to do with the site since.
The editor of this article looks to be a millennial btw.
To gen z, a boomer is anybody older than them
I hate when they say paying the premium is a “solution”. It’s worse. That’s why nobody is doing it.
I actually have a Premium subscription, but it’s kinda half assed journalism to suggest that as a solution.
How is it worse?
It costs money.
Having money is better than not having money.
Citizen, that sounds like communist anti-consumption talk.
Now go back to working 60 hours a week so you can buy things to feel better about having to work 60 hours a week.
I mean, I’d never buy anything by that logic alone.
No, author of this article, paying for premium is not a workaround.
more like walking in
It has some real “Ukraine should just stop fighting a losing war” vibes. I wonder how much Alphabet paid them for that article. Probably not much.
That said though, there is one ad blocker that still works. Two words: uBlock Origin. Yes, I know that Google has blocked it from its Chrome Extension store, but there is still a way to get uBlock Origin on Chrome that our how-to extraordinaire Kaycee has detailed.
Or… You could just ditch Chrome altogether!
I don’t know why people are so fixated on using Chrome. It’s a crippled browser made by an evil company that is actively looking to screw the user at every turn.
I switched to Firefox when Google essentially killed uBlock Origin on their browser. At first I ran into some problems with some sites not rendering correctly. But it seems like that’s become much less of an issue with later updates. And the best thing is that there are some phenomenal extensions for blocking ads - like a fully-fledged uBlock Origin to name just one. I don’t even see sponsor promotions in YT videos now.
And if you don’t want to deal with Mozilla directly you can use Waterfox instead.
All this dancing around and jumping through hoops to get uBlock Origin working on Chrome is kind of absurd. Just ditch Chrome (and all Blink-based browsers) altogether where you can (I get that corporate environments are often off the table for this).
Collectively we should be sending a message to Google whenever we can that we are done with their browser bullshit.
(I get that corporate environments are often off the table for this).
FYI in case anyone needs to hear this, but Firefox can be installed as a user in windows if you just decline the admin prompt when installing.
People keep forgetting that Google is quite literally the largest ad company in the world. That’s the vast majority of their revenue.
They’re never going to do something that fucks with ad income.
Or at least use a Chrome fork, if you must use it for compatibility or something.
TBH I think it’s just an accessibility issue. It’s easier to install an extension than find another browser and swtich to it for most people. Hence Internet Explorer lasted as long as it did.
“I’ve found a workaround”
Workaround (according to article): “First of all, YouTube Premium”
The actual workaround (according to article): “Two words: uBlock Origin. Yes, I know that Google has blocked it from its Chrome Extension store, but there is still a way to get uBlock Origin on Chrome”
Seems like they are being paid by Google. Actual workaround should be to drop Chrome.
Bah, This is just an add for a YouTube premium subscription
The workaround is pay for YouTube premium.
Edit: the above is is what the article says. Not my opinion. YT can get bent. Firefox + uBlock has been my “workaround” for years.
With all due respect, no the fuck it ain’t
With all due respect, that’s exactly what the article suggests is the solution.
Didn’t read it, did you?
The article can say that the sun is blue, that doesn’t make it true - which is the point you’re ignoring.
Because buying premium is not a workaround for an ad blocker not working, it’s giving up on the broken extension.
I’m not going to debate you on that, but the original commenter was saving people the effort of reading a pointless article, and getting shat on for it.
I didn’t think that was fair.
I don’t care if you want to debate it, the point of the article is wrong. The original commenter doesn’t deserve the hate, but their summary of the article, while being accurate to the article, is not a real work around.
I didn’t attack them, so I’m not in disagreement there. But you chose a rather respectful reply to be the disrespectful hill you chose to die on.
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I read it it comes off as an ad for premium
And that ain’t the solution
… Did you?
That said though, there is one ad blocker that still works. Two words: uBlock Origin. Yes, I know that Google has blocked it from its Chrome Extension store, but there is still a way to get uBlock Origin on Chrome that our how-to extraordinaire Kaycee has detailed.
Agree. I was just citing the article.
The Internet is full of people who can’t understand irony unless they’re slapped in the face with the /s.
Fuck youtube and their shit premium pricing
I think that’s fine. Let the non-tech-savvy users pay for the service. It seems like they deserve it, and also they keep YT running for “free”.
You can keep enjoying YT with Firefox + uBO or PipePipe on your phone.
I’m pretty tech savvy and pay for premium. It’s just too good a value for my household right now.
You could save nearly a couple hundred a year in most instances. LG have a dev account path, android is relatively simple I hear and various foss apps and patching apps will cover most.
Google are undeserving of more money
But I don’t just use it for watching videos. I also use YT music to listen to a few hours of music every day, and I also use it as off site storage for hundreds of hours of 4k video.
Damn sure was clickbaity. No ads? Buy YT Premium they say.
Whoopee. Saved you a click.
I stopped using ABP years ago and switched to uBlock Origin. That and some *Monkey scripts.
Imagine using Adblock/Adblock plus in 2025.
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Hence the part “nobody noticed” in the headline
FreeTube with an ipv6 rotator and Invidious will make sure you never have to deal with this.
Please elaborate…
FreeTube is a FOSS youtube frontend.
FreeTube occasionally has issues on videos with preroll ads where the video fails to play because the ad won’t be fetched. This can sometimes be mitigated by running an ipv6 rotator script and blocking freetubes access to ipv4. The one I run reassigns my ipv6 address once every 5 seconds to a new randomly generated valid address.
Sometimes even this doesn’t block the ads (again causing the video to fail to play) in which case selecting the share icon from the freetube interface and clicking “open invidious link” will open a web browser pointed to whichever invidious instance is set to your default.
The freetube folks are working on implementing DASH, which should eliminate the need for these workarounds once successful.
Thank you!!
I too am intererted in your rotator script
https://github.com/ycd/ipv6-rotator
Edit: not my code, for the record.
Why not just use the invidious instance directly?
I like freetube ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Fair enough! I do wish that invidious had the “full window” option.
If someone is fixated on using chrome, so far there is still a workaround:
https://www.neowin.net/guides/you-can-still-enable-ublock-origin-in-chrome-here-is-how/
Other than that, just switch to Firefox.
someone fixated on using chrome
should quit using the Internet at all
What if people just learned to use Firefox or NewPipe?
I use FreeTube on my laptop. It can lose functionality at times (due to shenanigans on the part of yt), but they’re pretty good about releasing updates that make it work again.
