• Archangel1313@lemmy.ca
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    5 months ago

    That’s not what an ad hominem is. You are literally parroting his justification for suspending the due process rights of everyone he wants to deport…right down to the part about “allowing criminals to get away with it…blah, blah, blah”.

    If you think these people are criminals, then prove it in court. Present your evidence to a judge and jury. If they are as guilty as you say, then you should get a conviction. And no one will be able to refute it.

    But if you simply do away with the whole process, you are guaranteeing that innocent people will be persecuted for nothing more than suspicion of guilt. They will have no means of clearing their name, when people like Trump accuse them of something they didn’t do. Are all those people worth throwing under the bus?

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      5 months ago

      You need a different process, and pointing out that the system is not working is perfectly valid.

      Is not equal to “do away with the whole process”.

      Once again, if you’re not going to bother reading things before replying to them then what’s the point?

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        5 months ago

        I’m simply responding to what you wrote. How else are you expecting me to read it?

        How do you implement a “different process” without doing away with the one you have? Are you talking about making some minor adjustments now…or coming up with something else entirely?

        And please, explain this “different process”. I would love to hear how you’ve solved the problems with the legal system, the way it is. I’m sure the world will be grateful that someone has finally come up with a system that can’t be abused. Your Nobel prize awaits.

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          5 months ago

          I’m simply responding to what you wrote.

          No, you’re responding to what your want to argue against instead of what is actually being said. I’m not going to continue repeating myself to someone who has no intention of listening.

          How do you implement a “different process” without doing away with the one you have? Are you talking about making some minor adjustments now…or coming up with something else entirely?

          You immediately contradict yourself here. “Can’t change anything without throwing away everything. Unless you’re talking about making changes that is.”

          Your Nobel prize awaits.

          “You’re not allowed to point out a flawed system unless you have a perfect solution! ‘better’ is not good enough if it’s not perfect! To do otherwise must mean you’re advocating for anarchy!”

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            5 months ago

            Man, I’m not the one contradicting myself here. You are just talking in circles now…and still saying nothing.

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              5 months ago

              I’ve said plenty and you haven’t refuted any of it. I’m not repeating myself for you again.

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                5 months ago

                Refute what, man? The only thing you keep repeating, is that I missed your point, without clarifying how? So, I keep asking you for more information, and you don’t provide any.

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                  5 months ago

                  I have repeated my point plenty, you made it clear you don’t listen. Reread my posts and try again.