Yeah whatever, you believe what you want. Your country is going down the shitter, and your entire left wing is convinced that doing the same old thing will be better the next time. Fucking losers.
Leftism isn’t all about skin color, sexuality and gender. It’s about a living wage, affordable housing, free education for everyone, free healthcare, it’s getting money out of politics, and most of all its about making those rich fuckers pay their fair share.
But noooo, let’s all just keep talking about skin color, “when is it a womans turn to lead?!” While half your country is too bigoted to even consider it an option. Grow up.
Your country is going down the shitter, and your entire left wing is convinced that doing the same old thing will be better the next time.
The same old thing is a boring centrist.
Leftism isn’t all about skin color, sexuality and gender. It’s about a living wage, affordable housing, free education for everyone, free healthcare, it’s getting money out of politics, and most of all its about making those rich fuckers pay their fair share.
And AOC is the most likely candidate that typifies those positions. Hence why the party is willing to shut out all women just to stop her personally.
Yes, and she definitely needs to be president - one day. Not yet tho, now is not the time to push for ideals, now is the time to BEAT THE NAZIS! run who ever the fuck can actually get them out of office.
Not yet tho, now is not the time to push for ideals
This sentence is how we got here.
now is the time to BEAT THE NAZIS!
By having no ideals!
run who ever the fuck can actually get them out of office.
this reads like “run another dull centrist again. Regardless of whether they can win. Again. We can always blame the left when we earn another loss. Again.”
You are advocating for a lack of policy and just running as “well, at least we’re second worst to the nazis. For now. And by as narrow a margin as we think we can get away with.”
I don’t have a say in the matter. I’m not one of the republican bigots we have to abandon every last principle to appeal to.
Run someone leaning as far to the left as possible, while also being able to actually win.
Which is interpreted in all cases by the useless and complicit democratic party as “run another centrist and lie about how progressive they aren’t.”
it is like you people hear what you want to hear. I am in no way saying run with right leaning policies.
Yes, you are. You’re just too removed from american politics to realize it.
I am saying you need to present your politics in a way that your bigoted countrymen can follow.
Always have to appeal the bigots all centrists want the approval of. Because appealing to anyone but bigots at this point is a move to the left. centrists would rather have us all dead in camps than move to the left.
Moving to the left has always been just this thing we will do in the nebulous future and NEVER FUCKING DO. You may be happy with that, but that’s because you don’t have to live here.
Bigots are too big a percentage of your population to ignore 🤷♂️
Brown people and gays Arent gonna get it any better under the fascists, so stop it with the targeted inclusion ads. Same with trans people, even women. They are all gonna be worse off, if you continue to focus so much on their equal rights that you fucking don’t win over the Nazis.
You can focus on those things when you are not literally risking the fate of the free world. Please?
Edit: I am not even saying “don’t run a politician that will fight for these things tooth and nail”. What i am trying to say is, “stop making it your main talking point” and “please run someone that the bigots can vote for”, meaning old rich and white.
They can be an old rich white guy that fights for leftists values thats actually what i hope for dearly, but it needs to be someone that the racists and sexists can vote for too (even though the candidate should definitely not be neither), because you’ve got A LOT of them, and fighting the Nazis is more important.
Bernie, tim walz, even Jon steward, i don’t give a fuck. Just let the world mature before you try to force AOC into presidency and accidentally hand the Nazis another term.
Bigots are too big a percentage of your population to ignore
Pretend I’m one of the bigots you dearly love and listen to me.
Bigots only vote for the bigger bigot. If you want to beat nazis by appealing to bigots, you have to be worse than your opponent. You don’t beat nazis by chasing them to the right.
If someone out there hates trans people, you don’t beat them by surrendering trans people to them. That doesn’t convince the bigots, but trans people and their allies notice. All you did is throw away your credibility for nothing. Pick any minority you are willing to abandon for the bigots you prefer in all cases. If you break solidarity with your base, you have no solidarity with your base. Even if you do it one demographic at a time.
Yeah whatever, you believe what you want. Your country is going down the shitter, and your entire left wing is convinced that doing the same old thing will be better the next time. Fucking losers.
Leftism isn’t all about skin color, sexuality and gender. It’s about a living wage, affordable housing, free education for everyone, free healthcare, it’s getting money out of politics, and most of all its about making those rich fuckers pay their fair share.
But noooo, let’s all just keep talking about skin color, “when is it a womans turn to lead?!” While half your country is too bigoted to even consider it an option. Grow up.
The same old thing is a boring centrist.
And AOC is the most likely candidate that typifies those positions. Hence why the party is willing to shut out all women just to stop her personally.
Yes, and she definitely needs to be president - one day. Not yet tho, now is not the time to push for ideals, now is the time to BEAT THE NAZIS! run who ever the fuck can actually get them out of office.
This sentence is how we got here.
By having no ideals!
this reads like “run another dull centrist again. Regardless of whether they can win. Again. We can always blame the left when we earn another loss. Again.”
You are advocating for a lack of policy and just running as “well, at least we’re second worst to the nazis. For now. And by as narrow a margin as we think we can get away with.”
Again.
That loses.
Please don’t run anoyher centrist.
Run someone leaning as far to the left as possible, while also being able to actually win.
Edit: it is like you people hear what you want to hear. I am in no way saying run with right leaning policies.
I am saying you need to present your politics in a way that your bigoted countrymen can follow. Let the same message come from an old white guy.
I don’t have a say in the matter. I’m not one of the republican bigots we have to abandon every last principle to appeal to.
Which is interpreted in all cases by the useless and complicit democratic party as “run another centrist and lie about how progressive they aren’t.”
Yes, you are. You’re just too removed from american politics to realize it.
Always have to appeal the bigots all centrists want the approval of. Because appealing to anyone but bigots at this point is a move to the left. centrists would rather have us all dead in camps than move to the left.
Moving to the left has always been just this thing we will do in the nebulous future and NEVER FUCKING DO. You may be happy with that, but that’s because you don’t have to live here.
Bigots are too big a percentage of your population to ignore 🤷♂️
Brown people and gays Arent gonna get it any better under the fascists, so stop it with the targeted inclusion ads. Same with trans people, even women. They are all gonna be worse off, if you continue to focus so much on their equal rights that you fucking don’t win over the Nazis.
You can focus on those things when you are not literally risking the fate of the free world. Please?
Edit: I am not even saying “don’t run a politician that will fight for these things tooth and nail”. What i am trying to say is, “stop making it your main talking point” and “please run someone that the bigots can vote for”, meaning old rich and white.
They can be an old rich white guy that fights for leftists values thats actually what i hope for dearly, but it needs to be someone that the racists and sexists can vote for too (even though the candidate should definitely not be neither), because you’ve got A LOT of them, and fighting the Nazis is more important.
Bernie, tim walz, even Jon steward, i don’t give a fuck. Just let the world mature before you try to force AOC into presidency and accidentally hand the Nazis another term.
Pretend I’m one of the bigots you dearly love and listen to me.
Bigots only vote for the bigger bigot. If you want to beat nazis by appealing to bigots, you have to be worse than your opponent. You don’t beat nazis by chasing them to the right.
If someone out there hates trans people, you don’t beat them by surrendering trans people to them. That doesn’t convince the bigots, but trans people and their allies notice. All you did is throw away your credibility for nothing. Pick any minority you are willing to abandon for the bigots you prefer in all cases. If you break solidarity with your base, you have no solidarity with your base. Even if you do it one demographic at a time.
Where bigots are welcome, no one else is.
Nah, a lot of people hate oligarchs and hate women and black folks too. Your world view is too black and white.