- cross-posted to:
- news@endlesstalk.org
- cross-posted to:
- news@endlesstalk.org
Sen. Markwayne Mullin tried to blame former President Barack Obama for Jeffrey Epstein‘s 2008 plea deal, despite Obama not being president at the time.
Mullin made the comments while being interviewed by Jake Tapper on CNN’s State of the Union on Sunday. First, Tapper and Mullin debated over whether the attorney general has the ability to release documents related to the Epstein investigation, with Mullin insisting that only judges have the ability to make that information public and Tapper arguing that there is additional information that Attorney General Pam Bondi could — and has promised to — release, yet she has not done so.
Then Mullin made a bizarre claim that Epstein struck a deal in Florida in 2009, under President Obama. But that is factually incorrect, as Tapper pointed out.
A few weeks ago I had to correct someone on Lemmy who was blaming Obama for the “great recession”. The comment even had a bunch of up votes.
Other people proceeded to also argue with me that Obama, who was sworn in on Jan 20th 2009, was responsible for the Great recession that started December 2007.
I honestly don’t believe a lot of the anti-DNC content is organic. Like, yeah, we DO have lemmy users who don’t like the DNC, in no short supply. But more than that I think their representation and vote power is just botnets by Chinese and Russian trolls/psyops trying to create situations beneficial to their masters.
Generally, people in the USA are tribalistic between the two sides or simply uninformed. To think more than half of a niche but open platform like Lemmy would be against both sides is just improbable.
There may be some bots, but honestly based on some conversations I’ve had with tankies and fake “leftist” many are some of the stupidest people I’ve talked to even compared to some brain dead Republicans.
Those bots have to play stupid, otherwise their propaganda isn’t consistent enough and they will be found out easily.
I’m not saying there are no bots, but some of them are definitely just that dumb.
I think you mean children. A whole lot of people commenting are literal children with no idea how the world works yet, or at the least very little.
Lemmy has a much higher than average population of actual socialists, communists, and anarchists. It doesn’t blow my mind that they would oppose a neoliberal party that works exclusively for the rich.
There’s opposing the neo liberals and then there’s blatant fascist propaganda.
Like the fact that Obama used the double tap drone strike, which is unarguably a war crime because it almost always hits first responders.
That’s a true and valid criticism.
Making believe that Obama had anything to do with Epstein or that he started Bush’s recession is just shifting blame away from the fascist party and helps no one but the fascists.
Except for the fact that the only party who have taxed or regulated the rich in the last 40 years are those human rights advocates you despise so much, and the very very very few minor parties who caucus with them.
Same folks like to say that all KKK members are Democrats.
Maybe a hundred years ago, but today we have one party with a black president and another party who want to put him in jail because he was black.
You are almost correct. The shift began with Nixon’s Southern Strategy. The transition of Southern Democrats who are also KKK members/racists to the Republican party began about 60 years ago.
Pretty sure Democrat President Lindon B. Johnson signing the Civil Rights Act predates that, but yes roughly 60 years ago.
Though Obama did team up with Bush to ensure the banks that caused it were bailed out quickly. This happened sometime around nov or dec 2008, after Obama had been elected but before he was sworn in.
And it was changes made during the Clinton presidency that allowed so many high risk mortgages to exist in the first place.
Not sure if the approval to bundle them together and call them lower risk was a Bush era thing or came from before that.
But even if the timing of the recession had started in 2009, it would have been something Obama inherited from Bush and Clinton. He only controlled his response to it (which wasn’t great, as that money was used to allow banks to pay bonuses and buy up foreclosed properties while people laid off for no fault of their own lost their homes).