• ExLisperA
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    21 hours ago

    Nothing changes for now but other moves by Google clearly show they are trying to kill 3rd party ROMs by locking down Android’s code. In my opinion, unless EU steps in and mandates phone manufacturers and Google to support google free apps we’re fucked.

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      19 hours ago

      EU wants phones to be locked down so they can then make Google implement mass surveillance for “national security” reasons

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        19 hours ago

        What are you basing this on? If you say “Chat Control” I will just ignore you.

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            17 hours ago

            Chat Control is not implementing mass surveillance and has nothing to do with national security. I that’s their only argument they are confused and there’s nothing to talk about. If they have other arguments I would like to hear them.

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              15 hours ago

              It likely is not their only grievance as other things exist like porn blocking, ID implementations and VPN discussions.

              Also chat control is reviewing private conversations. It is a provacy breach. There is no circumstance where this is not abusable. Here are some truths to how the law is presented:

              1: nothing can be seen, only if certain pre registered files are recognised 2: politicians, military and associated personnel are exempted.

              Meaning it can see more than nothing or else it is acceptable for these people to possess these materials.

              It is also able to controlled a granular level person to person.

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                15 hours ago

                Porn blocking? In EU? I heard about it only in UK. Which EU countries block porn?

                ID implementation… yes, all EU countries have ID. Many have digital IDs. What’s with it?

                VPN discussion isn’t really proof of anything. Even Chat Control 2.0 isn’t approved yet, it’s just a project. VPN blocking is not even a proposal. It just someone mentioned in some report. Hardly a reason to claim that EU is becoming a surveillance state.

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                  12 hours ago

                  Do you sit and wait to be impacted by something before you consider forming an opinion on it andk maybe acting?

                  IDs and digital IDs are not the same as the discussion surrounding online identification legislation. One is state ID that is pretty common. The other is tech companies gettimg a data harvesting opportunity.

                  I didnt make the claim, but there is ample evidence to support it from where I sit.

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                    9 hours ago

                    Act if you want to, no one is stopping you. For me it’s just silly that people talk about EU becoming surveillance state without being able to show a single valid example. Like when you said EU is blocking porn and VPN access. I’m still waiting for examples where it was done inside EU. Then everyone claims digital IDs are evil without realizing they have been used without issues in EU for 20 years. It’s like saying that EU will become a military dictatorship because countries have guns.