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    Superheroes can’t permanently solve stuff because then they’d have nothing left to fight and the comic would end.

    In the real world the Joker would have ‘accidentally’ died in custody a long time ago, Mr. Fantastic would have us all driving cheap electric cars powered by arc reactors made by Tony Stark, and we’d be livimg a life of gay space communism.

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      I mean you’re basically describing star trek. It’s not like you can’t write stories like that.

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        We almost never actually see the “gay space communism” aspect of the Star Trek universe. The stories are mostly set on military vessels exploring space outside the Federation. Their supposedly superior society is only alluded to occasionally in dialogue.

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    Damn, I thought this artist was getting better with pacing. Guess not.

    Only needed panels are 1, 2, 4, 6, 8 and I feel like panel 2 could easily be merged with another one.

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      You did not watch any of the movies if that’s your takeway. Iron Man 1 has Tony stop selling weapons, investing all of his money into clean energy, solving every war in the Middle East, and he kills a rich corrupt CEO.

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    Well… That depends. Spiderman is broke 90% of the time. Punisher’s life is living in the underworld. The X-Men are ostracised (I mean, sure, Xavier is pretty darn rich with his mansion. But he’s taking on all the kids their parents rejected. And he’s trying to change society).

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    And who had a part in building this? Perhaps the average voter not voting?

    Perhaps expressing apathy and complacency every chance you got while it happened around you?

    Once again the average American is asking an outside force to fix something they themselves keep getting themselves into by voting stupid or not voting at all, sitting on their hands when something is terrible happening right in front of them and keep buying the shit that will hurt them in the end. I mean here we all are on the net with one type of device or another. Possibly engaging with tech that is only propping these giants up further.

    Be the hero you wanted to come save you.

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      Closest would probably be something like Rojava or Chiapas. Sadly the capitalists control the world and until enough people turn on them and their system we won’t see much else.

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        Both examples represent only a state or autonomous region within a country.

        I understand capitalism is the dominant these days but I was ask more about the entire history of humanity.

        Was there a whole country [ not a city or state ] at any point in written history that prospered on a more fair system?

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          What shakes me to my core is that any attempt to establish a fair system is immediately bombarded by countless external and internal malicious actors looking to either exploit any loophole they can find for their own benefit or sabotage the system to prevent it from gaining any traction because it threatens their power.

          I don’t think capitalism or any of the similarly exploitative systems that came before it are superior solutions to proposed fairer alternatives, but the wealth disparity they have created and the perverse incentive structure they push on society leave us ill equipped to transition away from them. Right now, our economies are all so interconnected and interdependent that it’s impossible to exist outside of the influence of capitalism or it’s awful predecessors.

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            I agree with all what you said.

            The one thing we might disagree on is that you believe a fairer system is possible whereas I look at all countries in all of the known history and conclude that its not possible to have a fair system where everyone is truly equal.

            I could be wrong of course. I am not a historian and surely there is a lot for me to learn and hence my question about any historic evidence of a successful fair system.

            I come from Egypt and we went through communism period. The president back then decided to take big chunk of land from the ultra rich and divide it among the farmers. Factories were nationalized, big chains and businesses were taken away.

            Result:

            1. When a land lord owned vast amount of land, he had enough money to buy most advanced equipments and most talented and experienced engineers in agriculture but when the land got divided among many poor farmers, they couldn’t afford any of that and productivity went down fast and the effect is lasting until now.

            2. Nationalized factories and businesses were given to people who - at best - didn’t worry too much if they’d succeed or not and at worse wanted to make as much cash as possible. Add to that people feared of succeeding too much least their possessions get confiscated.

            Egypt used to produce TVs, Radios, cassettes, Cars, .and many others and now it produces pretty much nothing.

            Even China didn’t starts to succeed until it gave in a little to Capitalism (not that Communist China was any fairer anyway)

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              Communism, socialism, and the theoretically fairer alternatives I speak of have a number of possible implementations and, for the reasons I mentioned above, virtually no untainted historical examples for us to cleanly learn from. Every time someone takes a crack at it, the circumstances are unique and the powers looking to sabotage the system or seize it for themselves are different. It usually gets dismantled or becomes so corrupted as to be nothing more than another attempt.

              I know nothing about what happened in Egypt and I’m commenting solely on my general knowledge and the words you have provided me.

              The president back then decided to take a big chunk of land from the ultra rich and divide it among the farmers. Factories were nationalized, big chains and businesses were taken away.

              When a land lord owned vast amount of land, he had enough money to buy most advanced equipments and most talented and experienced engineers in agriculture but when the land got divided among many poor farmers, they couldn’t afford any of that and productivity went down fast and the effect is lasting until now.

              So the farmers had no assistance and no plan to implement this massive change? Land was just taken from a large owner and haphazardly distributed to poor farmers?

              While I don’t doubt that the loss of productivity has had a detrimental effect and caused harm, how were conditions for the laborers and those in poverty before this happened, when “productivity” was great? I’m not sure what the greater “good” conditions would be since I’m not familiar with the situation, the region, or its struggles. It is just notable that your description focuses on productivity.

              Nationalized factories and businesses were given to people who - at best - didn’t worry too much if they’d succeed or not and at worse wanted to make as much cash as possible. Add to that people feared of succeeding too much least their possessions get confiscated.

              Nationalized tends to mean state ownership rather than distributed or worker ownership. Who were the factories “given to” and what does that mean? Again, was there a plan or were they just seized and handed off without serious consideration for how they should be managed and maintained?

              Perhaps there is a reason I’ve never heard of the Egyptian communism you speak of. It sounds like it was not implemented with any kind of long term plan and, unsurprisingly, didn’t achieve very much. Or it might just be that it received little attention because it wasn’t a country of “white” people.