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  • this seems more like projection to me.

    My goodness, I think you’re right!

    You’re not making this determination based on the evidence, you’re belief is that because you’re a leftist and wouldn’t use violence and you don’t feel the other leftists with whom you interact would assassinate someone, it would take some crazy radicalization to do so. Goypers on the other hand, you feel are hate filled, already extreme and thus ready to kill people.


  • To each their own I guess. This sounds like really motivated reasoning, in that you started with the end you want and then worked backwards. Right now, your hope is that the shooter is actually a fan of Fuentes despite being in a transgender relationship, despite being on the more extreme side is saying he’s doing it because some hate can’t be negotiated out (implying that he’s actually calling for more hatred and naming it as such, which most folks on these sides don’t do) while ignoring his parents claims that he’s getting more into Left wing politics.

    Or, y’know, a kid who intended to get away with it, wrote some memes from a semi plausible group on bullets in an attempt to blame the Far Right.

    I’m not saying your version is impossible but it does beggar belief. It’s like when my uncle defends trump and invokes all manner of wild conspiracies to do so, what he’s saying isn’t impossible it just requires a bunch of wild coincidences etc.



  • I can’t speak to the shooter’s motivations (though meme forensics seems pretty silly) but the “at a Right wing state with a Right wing governor” etc bits seem pretty dumb.

    It’d be like saying the guy who went after Pelosi was clearly a Leftie because it was in a Leftie state, with a Left song governor, in a Left wing city against a Left wing politician. Pretty nonsense points and make us look dumb.


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    I’m not saying the shooter definitely isn’t a groyper or whatnot, I’m saying that meme forensics seem a bit of an odd way to definitively decalre someone in one group or another.

    Especially when that group is really transphobic and your romantic partner is trans.

    I dunno but it strikes me like anyone declaring they know this guy’s motivations one way or the other is probably just seeing what they want to see.

    Edit: Okay, and now they’ve released the text exchanges and stuff. Seems pretty darned clear he’s Left wing, not Right. (Can you really imagine a far Right killing Kirk would be doing so because they “had enough of his hatred. Some hate can’t be negotiated out” ?)

    https://atty.utahcounty.gov/cms/uploads/TJR_Information_49872215e3.pdf