The Capytistas, a secretive group claiming more than $1.2 million in backing, started with Elon Musk and Tesla’s board. Members argue that those who buy political power deserve the scrutiny they’ll impose.
  • nothrone@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
    47·
    7 days ago

    I will get banned for this, perhaps: I seriously think we should be setting their houses on fire. Show them they are not welcome on this planet. Just fucking revolt against them.

    I simply do not see another way. They have all the money in the world to change public opinion and manipulate everything to their gain. We have to not play the game, ignore everything and just get rid of them without going trough the “proper means”. The proper means do not work.

    • FlexibleToast@lemmy.worldEnglish
      4·
      6 days ago

      I think someone should build a simple, relatively cheap drone with a bomb and open source the design. Make it so anyone with a 3d printer and some basic supplies can hit their property from a reasonable distance away. Make them afraid to have that wealth.

    • sexy_peach@feddit.orgEnglish
      5·
      7 days ago

      I don’t think this is particularly crass. They are free to just not hoard all the wealth and do the worst things. Then people wouldn’t blame them for the things they cause.

      • PenisLipsYinYang69@lemmy.worldEnglish
        2·
        7 days ago

        And these guys just go around buy up hearts and minds, burning down their 100th place of residence would only get spun into some dystopian novel used against your cause. Yet we are watching Albania step up and threaten something like this but that has many layers and they are organizing VS someone on the internet suggesting lone wolf vigilante justice , or I could be wrong.

    • BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.todayEnglish
      2·
      6 days ago

      That day may be coming, but we’re not there yet.

      I’ve been telling people who have been criticizing America for not getting violent, that we have two Constitutional checkpoints to go through before violence becomes the appropriate tool. The first was the Midterms, which we got through in spectacular fashion, far better than I even dreamed. We proved, far beyond ANY doubt, that Dem voters have serious POWER in this country, and they are now fully mobilized like never before. Most importantly, we didn’t just prove that to MAGA, we proved it to Dem voters themselves. In the future, it will be far easier to mobilize them, now that they’ve done it, and was such a big success that everybody was rewarded with happiness.

      Now we have to keep it together to get through the 2028 Presidential Election, where we can elect a Democratic president, and increase our majorities in Congress. Ted Cruz, for instance, is up for reelection in 2028. It will be fun to end his political career.

      If MAGA decides to create a situation in which they feel they can eliminate the election, THEN it will be time for violence.

      If we get through the election without a problem, he is almost certainly going to try to pull a Maduro, and just try to stay in office, no matter what the outcome of the election was. In that case, the violence will be directed only at the criminal who is holding the White House hostage.

      Violence is a tool, to be used in the appropriate situation. If you needed a screwdriver, you wouldn’t start pounding it with a hammer. The next project is the 2028 election. We just need to stay the course, and not let them knock us off our strategy. We managed to do that for the last two years, now let’s do that for the next two years, and get our country back.

    • Gaslov@lemmy.worldEnglish
      2·
      6 days ago

      Who do you think pays for the daily show or Last Week Tonight? The billionaires you like?

        • Gaslov@lemmy.worldEnglish
          1·
          5 days ago

          People around here love those shows. But they exist to influence you and are paid for by billionaires. I hope when people on here demand violence against billionaires, they understand it will be against the entertainers they so adore.

          • AmbiguousCabbage@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
            2·
            5 days ago

            I can confidently say that anyone who would support an armed working class uprising could not care less if it would result in the cancelation of a few shows, and certainly not the shows you mentioned. I think you have created a mental image of some stereotypical “liberal/leftist” that does not actually exist in reality, and certainly does not represent the person whose comment you replied to.

            • Gaslov@lemmy.worldEnglish
              1·
              4 days ago

              The minute your favorite celebrities kindly asked you to stop, your movement would die. Billionaires have control. Just imagine John Oliver pleading for the killings to come to an end, you really think people wouldn’t lose their will? Who could resist those puppy eyes?

                • Gaslov@lemmy.worldEnglish
                  1·
                  4 days ago

                  I am being serious. You lot hate the people you’re supposed to hate and you love the people you’re supposed to love. You aren’t revolutionaries, you’re tools. You can’t even organize a business, much less have any hope in political change. And just as the slander machine can turn you on any politician, it can be used to turn others against you.

    • PenisLipsYinYang69@lemmy.worldEnglish
      2·
      7 days ago

      At some point one would think high ranking military might break off and start forcing change, before that might happen , doing stuff like this would only allow for legal actions to be taken against people burning down a parasites 100th address. Following the rule of law is necessary if you want to keep the general population on your side, Until it isn’t.

  • BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.todayEnglish
    11·
    6 days ago

    These Sociopathic Oligarchs have become a major global problem, and it is only going to get worse. These people have serious mental illness, likely OCD manifesting as a financial hoarding disorder. They can’t stop accumulating money, no matter how much they have, or the damage it does to society. They would literally kill millions of people if they thought it would increase their bank accounts.

    Look at the damage they’ve done as Billionaires, and imagine the problems they could cause as TRILLIONAIRES. They’ll be able to afford armies, especially if they form alliances. Then they can create their own sovereign nation, and start really throwing their influence around.

    How could they create their own country, that’s silly? Oh, I don’t know, maybe buy a giant island off the coast of Albania, which has miles of bunkers reinforced to withstand a NATO attack? Maybe Ivanka knows a place like that.

    These maniacs are a ticking hydrogen bomb, and we have to do every person on this planet the favor of eliminating this existential threat to mankind.

    • DrSoap@lemmy.worldEnglish
      4·
      6 days ago

      That island is a half hour drive down the coast from my parents house. The whole coastal area has been bought up by the super rich and developers. It’s really heartbreaking.

  • Avicenna@programming.devEnglish
    10·
    6 days ago

    If the democrat victory carries over into action, watch Delon Husk (and google, amazon, openAI etc) become a progressive faster than the blink of an eye.

    • Allero@lemmy.todayEnglish
      5·
      6 days ago

      I wonder what they’re gonna do now, between a rock and a hard place.

      They need to remain Trump sycophants while also accounting for Democratic Congress.

      If the latter really push forward, billionaires will get into some very precarious position.

      • Avicenna@programming.devEnglish
        2·
        5 days ago

        I am sure they are having their people draft plans for re-implementing dei (that they removed soon after Trump’s second term started) in case this takes hold.

  • kreskin@lemmy.worldEnglish
    21·
    7 days ago

    Dont just issue a press release saying you are planning it, just do it for effs sake.

  • Newhere@lemmy.mlEnglish
    6·
    6 days ago

    Since they are getting rich just because of people buying their stuff, the power is in buying. Stop buying. Watch La belle verte movie. There show how people stopped all this madness.

    • GenosseFlosse@feddit.orgEnglish
      8·
      6 days ago

      This doesn’t work in today’s world. Even if all of the fediverse and reddit would be on board with this idea, the impact might be less than 1% in missed sales, simply because the other 99% would not know about it because they don’t use social media, or it’s not in their algorithm, or it’s not on tv news. Plus you need to keep it going for a long time, not just a week until a different topic overtakes.

    • BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.todayEnglish
      4·
      6 days ago

      Many of these people don’t have fortunes from consumer goods. An awful lot of them are making money out of thin air. They create markets that rise, bubbles that grow, manipulate markets, etc., and the value of their investments go way up. No products were created, distributed, purchased. That’s too much trouble. Better to just manipulate numbers on a spread sheet, and voilá, wealth out of thin air.

    • distante@lemmy.worldEnglish
      2·
      6 days ago

      That just works when the people buy directly, not thru government contracts or subsidies.

    • Allero@lemmy.todayEnglish
      2·
      6 days ago

      It’s of just Musk, it’s billionaires as a whole. One may have very hard time not buying anything from them while still surviving.

  • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
    8·
    7 days ago

    “Plan to”?

    Uh yeah that’s not how this stuff works. You don’t announce your plans like that, you just do them.

    • SinAdjetivos@lemmy.worldEnglish
      13·
      6 days ago

      “think of the children!!!”

      Really… Everyone, including those children, are suffering because of these people. A gentle “doxxing” (what is public available information for every other individual) as a warning is nothing compared to the harms they inflict daily.

      • aksdb@lemmy.worldEnglish
        3·
        6 days ago
        1. not everyone else’s info is publicly available. I can’t just look up where you live.
        2. the doxxing itself isn’t what OP warns about, but acting with the information in a dangerous manner
        • SinAdjetivos@lemmy.worldEnglish
          1·
          5 days ago

          1. Yes it is, and yes you can! The best sources are hidden behind clunky and/or paywalled government sites. Collators like https://www.peoplefinders.com/ then exist to provide a bit better access to that information. For a price. In the US If you pay taxes or own property that’s all public information for us normal people.

          2. Inaction has been shown to be more dangerous. For those kids too.

    • Allero@lemmy.todayEnglish
      9·
      6 days ago

      I get the sentiment, and it has some merit, but when we think of the children, we need to think of all of them. Will inaction here hurt more children, and people overall, in other places?