See, that’s the point where my sympathy evaporates. As soon as you set out to trap the desperate, you’re nothing more than a predator.
Edit: Ooh, kicked the nest! Sorry folks, but if this were a pedestrian stopping cyclists from illegally mounting the pavement I suspect there’d be a different tune (I am a pedestrian who routinely has to deal with shitty cyclists mounting the pavement to skip traffic, or lights, when I’m on my way to work).
A “predator” who keeps drivers from driving in the bike lanes forcing them to… hit people with cars and threaten them with their fists instead of simply turning around and following the law.
A cyclist would leave that part of the pavement and continue biking. I’m guessing that they also wouldn’t try hitting people with their bike which also doesn’t pay 2 tons.
Disagree with the first bit. They have a chance to make a little bit of positive change, and they do. Good on them.
Super feel you on the last bit though. Happens at least once a day to me. I even have some low level chronic pain from a cyclist hitting me a few years back. I really wish the anti car community was ready to address this problem.
Conclusion: like, both are bad. Just because the latter is bad and there’s many apologists for the latter doesn’t mean it’s not right to call out car drivers for this egoistical behavior. Even those who don’t realise that both are bad (there’s many of them, I know) are your allies in this. How’d you feel if a pedestrian managed to get a cyclist prosecuted for this behavior? Would you see them as a predator?
I really wish the anti car community was ready to address this problem.
What do you think pushing for separate infrastructure for cyclists is, if not that? Nobody wants to ride on a sidewalk trying to dodge pedestrians; it happens when cyclists are forced off the street by drivers and have nowhere else to go.
As a matter of experience, cyclists will use the sidewalk right next to the cycle path if it means they can skip a red light or makes their path 10m shorter. Or even just because. Or to pass a stopped tram, people getting off it be damned. These are all things that happen daily in my city, the very last one has caused the collision that left me with chronic pain.
Endangering others for your convenience is nobody’s right.
Yo, not what I’m saying. The person in the video didn’t manufactor a dangerous situation, the driver created it and the filmer called it out and shames the driver publicly. It’s the only way some people learn, so, good on the filmer. Next time you get endangered by a cyclist on the sidewalk, feel free to do the same.
See, that’s the point where my sympathy evaporates. As soon as you set out to trap the desperate, you’re nothing more than a predator.
Edit: Ooh, kicked the nest! Sorry folks, but if this were a pedestrian stopping cyclists from illegally mounting the pavement I suspect there’d be a different tune (I am a pedestrian who routinely has to deal with shitty cyclists mounting the pavement to skip traffic, or lights, when I’m on my way to work).
Haha “the desperate” is what you call entitled shitasses who can’t drive properly?
A yes the poor desperate Mercedes drivers trying to vehicular manslaughter someone for being stubborn (but right)
A “predator” who keeps drivers from driving in the bike lanes forcing them to… hit people with cars and threaten them with their fists instead of simply turning around and following the law.
The desperate lol, you mean people intentionally breaking the law in their car?
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Well I’m pretty sure a bike cannot be illegally impeding a driver in the bike lane where they have no legal right to be.
Blocking a vehicle from going the wrong way and potentially hurting someone is not the same as blocking someone for no reason.
The guy in a Mercedes who is breaking the law because he’s an angry asshole just needs to be stopped.
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A cyclist would leave that part of the pavement and continue biking. I’m guessing that they also wouldn’t try hitting people with their bike which also doesn’t pay 2 tons.
Disagree with the first bit. They have a chance to make a little bit of positive change, and they do. Good on them.
Super feel you on the last bit though. Happens at least once a day to me. I even have some low level chronic pain from a cyclist hitting me a few years back. I really wish the anti car community was ready to address this problem.
Conclusion: like, both are bad. Just because the latter is bad and there’s many apologists for the latter doesn’t mean it’s not right to call out car drivers for this egoistical behavior. Even those who don’t realise that both are bad (there’s many of them, I know) are your allies in this. How’d you feel if a pedestrian managed to get a cyclist prosecuted for this behavior? Would you see them as a predator?
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Both things they mentioned: cars using the bike lane and cycles using the sidewalk to skip traffic illegally
What do you think pushing for separate infrastructure for cyclists is, if not that? Nobody wants to ride on a sidewalk trying to dodge pedestrians; it happens when cyclists are forced off the street by drivers and have nowhere else to go.
As a matter of experience, cyclists will use the sidewalk right next to the cycle path if it means they can skip a red light or makes their path 10m shorter. Or even just because. Or to pass a stopped tram, people getting off it be damned. These are all things that happen daily in my city, the very last one has caused the collision that left me with chronic pain.
Endangering others for your convenience is nobody’s right.
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Yo, not what I’m saying. The person in the video didn’t manufactor a dangerous situation, the driver created it and the filmer called it out and shames the driver publicly. It’s the only way some people learn, so, good on the filmer. Next time you get endangered by a cyclist on the sidewalk, feel free to do the same.
* The impatient