Luigi Mangione’s religion requires that he sacrifice health care executives, but I don’t see any judges standing up for him.
I dont understand, Luigi is innocent, he was playing Mouse Trap board game with me at the alleged time.
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My bad, thanks for the correction. I get so confused about some of the Psalms.
Ig sexually abusing kids falls under religious freedoms now. What a shithole country
It seems that protecting the children only works to weaken privacy and individual rights, not to actually protect children.
So they just need to classify Epstein as a religious leader?
kind of similar on how Christian conservatives push for child/adult marriage, because they believe the only damage of pedophilia is that it is out of wedlock, and it would be better for the child they are sent to live with a rapist and become their servant.
The legislation “places them in the position of either complying with the requirements of their faith or violating the law. The consequences for violating the law are serious and, as Plaintiffs assert, the implications of violating the Sacramental Seal are more serious still,” he wrote.
Attorney General Nick Brown’s office emphasized that the ruling only applies to “the Sacrament of Confession” and that, if clergy learn about abuse in any other setting, the injunction does not change that they will be mandated reporters. Brown did not provide any further comment.
Batshit insane first paragraph. The second is at least some small positive. I don’t know that this being overturned actually makes any meaningful difference in practice though though- if people can’t say they abused a child in confessional they won’t. I guess you might catch some people in the transmission, who didn’t learn about the change? That would be a positive. But I think long term people just wouldn’t confess to sexual abuses in the confessional anymore
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Religion, ALL religion, is a fucking cancer, the blight of humanity.
On a scale of 1 to 10, I wonder how old that judge’s last sexual
partnervictim wasThe freedom of religion to continue enabling child rapists.
Perhaps all religion should die along with the cunts in charge.
What FREEDOM exactly is it violating?
Catholic doctrine is the privacy of the confessional is absolute. Plus there’s an argument that even the worst offender should have a place to unburden and beg forgiveness. Obviously forgiveness doesn’t need to be granted.
I feel like absolute confidentiality for sins that harm yourself fine… but actively stealing the innocence of youth shouldn’t be protected, it’s reprehensible and anyone protecting abuse should be charged
Of course it’s reprehensible, but confidentiality can be what lets them speak up. It’s not a matter of protecting or not protecting the victims, but attempting to encourage the perpetrator to admit their crime and take responsibility, at least to themselves.
The mods in this community are so dumb. Gee, let’s protect the child rapists, can’t even think about making a comment that implies violence or it gets removed. Don’t worry about context, you hear that everyone! Violence is bad ya’ll no matter the context, even if someone tries to rape you!
Edit: For the record, when you come to remove this. I was raped as a child, so I have strong feelings about this for good reason. You have personal experience with rape, and you get to have an opinion on it. If you haven’t and you think my response is over the top, then you can go fuck yourself. My entire life was ruined bcz of some asshole who wanted to diddle a fucking little kid.
I’m sorry that happened to you. That’s indefensible, as is stopping this from becoming law. What a disgusting organization the GOP is. Openly protecting pedophiles. Once again, the children are the ones who will suffer the most.
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Wow! But if I “overheard” part of this “confession” as a “mandated reporter” BY FED LAW (confessionals are NOT SOUND PROOF), I can go to jail if I do not report what I overheard and the government found out I knew… straight to court!
Yet, these fucks get a hall pass to keep fucking with kids “because of religion”, religion doesn’t give you the freedom to fuck with kids but the Catholics would know the most about fucking with kids wouldn’t they?!?! Appalling! Our nation is fucked!
I mean, am I surprised when our “president” is a know pedophile who talked about his own daughter sexually and was besties with Epstein!? WHERE IS THE CLIENT LIST!? We know Drumpf was probs the invite NUMBER 1 and FUNDED it! 🤦🏽♀️🤷🏽♀️
A bit of a clickbait title (but only a bit) - the WA law moved to make priests required reporters, professions who are legally required by law to report child abuse. The injunction sought to exempt catholic priests from being required to report child abuse which was reported to them under the ‘seal of the confessional’ (the special super secret group chat that only exists between you, your priest and god) and after this injunction they are still required reporters in all other instances.
This is… at least a consistent ruling? For example religious leaders can’t be held as accomplices if they don’t report crimes that were told to them in a ritual setting (oversimplification) or be held liable if they don’t forewarn about someone planning suicide or some other crime and then said person goes thru with it. Predictably canon law is rife with examples of breaking the seal of the confession to prevent a suicide, of course, but lets just ignore that.
The rationalization for this is twofold: First freedom of religion from civil regulation. Second and more credibly that it would be allowing unfair weight into criminal proceedings because of the perceived sanctity of the confession and the upstanding character of priests (lol). The argument goes that testimony brought of things revealed in confession is by it’s nature hersay, but hersay that would be presented as being devout reporting of an unimpeachable confession, and that could unduly sway juries and in general get really messy so the law just doesn’t want to deal with it.
I strongly disagree with this ruling, the catholics get enough special treatment what with not being prosecuted for raping all those children, that’s just the background to the arguments being made about it.
The problem as I understand the religion, is the priests are going to do whatever the church(bishop, cardinal, pope) say is correct. Because the reward and punishment are infinite. For the true believers I think the only exception the church officially makes is to prevent a murder?
The new pope should be lobbied to change this but don’t get your hopes up.
Priests are bound to confidentiality for whatever was confessed to them during confession. It’s part of why people confess to them. Priests are then able to encourage people to seek help, talk to the police, etc., but they themselves aren’t supposed to report what is said to them. In a few flavors of Christianity, including Catholicism, confession is considered a sacrament. It’s between the believer, their priest, and their god.
That’s what this ruling is about. Priests are still mandatory reporters for anything they learn outside confession.
It’s weird how one group of people has such a warped idea of what “freedom” means.
There was a really great article about the difference between Northern liberty vs. the Southern notion of “liberty”. The Southern is mostly about the “liberty” to rule over others.
Standing up for religious freedom…to keep child abuse secret.
