Release 12.0 · jellyfin/jellyfin
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🚀 Release notes for 12.0 Notes on Updating Before upgrading from an earlier version, a full backup of the data directory is strongly recommended, as this release includes database changes that prev...

cross-posted from: https://aussie.zone/post/36389875

Why jump from 10.11.11 directly to 12.0? -> Blog Post

You can find more details about and discuss this release on the official forums.

As always, please ensure you stop your Jellyfin server and take a full backup of your metadata/configs before upgrading!

Direct upgrades from 10.10.7 and 10.11.x to 12.0 are supported; intermediate upgrades are not required. Users running releases older than 10.10.7 are strongly encouraged to upgrade to 10.10.7 before migrating to 12.0.

Installed repository plugins (anything not built-in) should also be removed before migrating. Plugins will likely need time to adapt to the new database changes, so re-adding them afterward is the safest approach for testing.

Official plugins compatible with Jellyfin are available through the stable plugin repository. If you have changed to the unstable plugin repository please change it back.

Go to Dashboard -> Plugins -> Manage Repositories
Update the Plugin Repository URL to: https://repo.jellyfin.org/files/plugin/manifest.json

After migrating please perform the following steps.

Perform a full library scan to restore alternative versions
Run the "Optimize database" scheduled task

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  • SatyrSack@quokk.auEnglish
    85·
    2 months ago

    , and . scrub frame-by-frame during playback

    SO0LaBn99MO6v8V.webp

    That is exactly how MPV does it. But from what I remember, VLC devs claim it’s impossible, so VLC only allows you to scrub forward frame-by-frame, not backward. You can skip backwards in three-second increments or whatever, just not frame-by-frame at all. It’s the main thing that keeps me using MPV as my default video player, because I frequently skip around videos trying to get a screenshot of the perfect frame to use to make a meme or something. Being able to scrub frame-by-frame in both directions is a big deal.

      • SatyrSack@quokk.auEnglish
        13·
        2 months ago

        So, every time I want to go back one frame, I have to open that plugin from the menu and then respond to that dialog window? That is certainly more cumbersome than the way MPV/Jellyfin do it, where scrubbing is just a keyboard shortcut. Even if I assigned a keyboard shortcut to activated that plugin (I assume that’s possible), I still have to respond to that dialog box?

        When I scrub through a video to get the perfect frame to screenshot, the experience is usually something like:

        1. Pause video, no that’s not the right frame
        2. Scrub back five frames, not right
        3. Scrub forward one frame, looks closer
        4. Scrub forward one frame, looks closer
        5. Scrub forward one frame, that’s almost what I want
        6. Scrub forward one frame, that’s worse, I guess I went too far
        7. Scrub back one frame, settle on that one

        Using MPV, that’s pretty simple because each step there is just a keystroke that takes zero effort and zero time. But if each of those steps also required me to respond to a dialog box, that would just make the process tedious.

  • TheOctonaut@piefed.zipEnglish
    47·
    2 months ago

    The reason is the feedback we got after 10.11.0, which we first raised in January and confirmed in May. A release like 10.11.0 was, by any reasonable measure, a major release - it rewrote the library database - but the version number presented it as a minor update, and people upgraded with expectations to match. The leading 10. never changed and never told anyone anything, so all it did was push the number that actually mattered into the middle position and make “major” releases look minor. Dropping it means the first number moves when the release is big.

    lol. All the Jellykins in here lost their minds when this was pointed out.

    • samc@feddit.ukEnglish
      21·
      2 months ago

      I dont get why they didn’t just call that update 11.0? Or use that for this update?

      I guess if you’re changing the semantics of your version numbers its also a good idea to introduce a deliberate discontinuity to mark the change?

    • Axolotl@feddit.itEnglish
      8·
      2 months ago

      My guess is that people would call the 10.11.x update something like .11.x instead of the full version because “they don’t change the first number anyway” and it would cause confusion to call the next update version 11.x.x so they just jumped to 12

  • krimson@lemmy.worldEnglish
    41·
    2 months ago

    Multiple versions for episodes

    ❤️

    Edit: so I have two libraries, 4K and HD because of different viewing locations. Transcoding 4K to HD is not an option, hardware is too slow for that.

    Now my multi quality tvshows get combined into one “view” per show which is nice. But it seems it still shows seperate episodes per quality and does not track viewing progress yet sadly or am I missing something?

    • SatyrSack@quokk.auEnglish
      11·
      2 months ago

      That’s not as common of an occurrence as multiple versions of movies, but I have sure had a few instances when I wanted that for a TV show episode as well. That is certainly a welcome feature that I am looking forward to.

    • virku@lemmy.worldEnglish
      4·
      2 months ago

      Can you in theory set the servarr stack to fetch multiple languages of the same media now, when available?

      • Dultas@lemmy.worldEnglish
        6·
        2 months ago

        I don’t think seer, sonarr, or radarr support that but in theory could. You’d also need your sources to have a good way to supply those details in a good way as well. I wish they had a good way to filter for languages now as I hate dubbed anything.

        • virku@lemmy.worldEnglish
          2·
          2 months ago

          I don’t have the arr stack now, but when I fiddled with it a year or two ago I had to set one language. I ended up scrapping it because of it and just continuing with the streaming services. I also hate dubbed anything, but have small kids who want to see their shows in Norwegian. Switching them over to English on shows or movies they already know in Norwegian would be a great way for them to learn. Maybe I get to watch the Disney movies in English with them finally.

    • irish_link@lemmy.worldEnglish
      5·
      2 months ago

      I know it’s not the same but quick connect works well. Why not log in that way using a six digit code?

      • Encrypt-Keeper@lemmy.worldEnglish
        9·
        2 months ago

        Couple reasons.

        • Jellyfin is not security software, and given the inconsistency and general lack of polish of every other aspect of Jellyfin, its raw login page is not something I’d comfortably expose to the internet to begin with.
        • Quick connect is a poor, unintuitive imitation of Device Flow. A non-technical user would have to also have a Jellyfin app or bookmark in their phone already, and know where to navigate in it to reach the quick connect function. This on its own is insurmountable.
        • It’s not SSO. Jellyfin is yet another username and password they must remember when every single other thing I self host supports OIDC out of the box and they get one user account for everything.
        • irish_link@lemmy.worldEnglish
          4·
          2 months ago

          Fair points. Thanks for the lesson. TIL a lot.

          Man, I really appreciate so many good folks giving info and not flaming each other. This is a great community.

    • quadrant5835@lemmy.zipEnglish
      3·
      2 months ago

      I agree with you but also about 90% of watching on my instance happens on smart TV’s. So even though I would like to have oidc supported for the occasional phone/pc user I would still need something basic that a TV can use.

      • Encrypt-Keeper@lemmy.worldEnglish
        3·
        2 months ago

        Smart TVs should be able to support OIDC easily out of the box.

        And if it didn’t, you can just use a Device Flow

      • Encrypt-Keeper@lemmy.worldEnglish
        2·
        2 months ago

        The plugin does not work with Jellyfin clients.

        They have to actually build support into the server and the clients.

  • rumba@lemmy.zipEnglish
    25·
    2 months ago

    Looks like my move to navidrome for music is paying off :)

    Seems strange to push books over Audio.

    I’m happy to see such a huge list of achievements through. Especially the endpoint hardening.

    Sad to see still no 2FA,

    Progress is progress; it’s still free and open.

    • kalpol@lemmy.caEnglish
      19·
      2 months ago

      Most people I know run it behind a VPN, so 2FA is less critical.

      • rumba@lemmy.zipEnglish
        14·
        2 months ago

        Most people I know use Plex so they don’t have to.

        I’m hoping we can change that eventually.

  • gedfromgont@piefed.caEnglish
    16·
    2 months ago

    Is anybody who updated already using Findroid? Just wondering if the update breaks anything in terms of 3rd party apps.

    Edit a few days later: made the plunge and can confirm Findroid works without issues.

  • German The Jackal@pawb.socialEnglish
    14·
    2 months ago

    Any changes to the massive memory footprint of JF? I’m basically stuck on Plex because JF eats multiple gigabytes of my very limited RAM.

  • Surp@lemmy.worldEnglish
    12·
    2 months ago

    How do you get this to work remotely easily for old people on smart tvs?

    • left_is_best@feddit.onlineEnglish
      16·
      2 months ago

      Tailscale is a pretty good option if said old people have an Android or Apple TV, not sure about availability of Tailscale on any other OSs. Run it on your server and the TV client, grab the Tailscale IP from the dashboard and enter [Tailscale IP]:[Jellyfin port] when the Jellyfin app asks for the server address. You could homebrew a VPN too. Only other option would be a domain name and a reverse proxy.

      • Hubi@feddit.orgEnglish
        12·
        2 months ago

        Only other option would be a domain name and a reverse proxy.

        This is how I set it up for my family and friends. Works like a charm, especially if you have a dynamic IP. Everyone just signs in through whichever app they want to use.

        • AllHailTheSheep@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
          3·
          2 months ago

          this is the way imo. I also took the time to disable internal authentication and hook up authentik via the ldap auth plugin. so for my users, I can text them a link, they set up their credentials and verify their email, then they can sign in to jellyfin with the same creds and it automatically creates a profile and everything.

        • left_is_best@feddit.onlineEnglish
          2·
          2 months ago

          Same, I had enough people I wanted to have access to it that I didn’t feel like explaining Tailscale to all of them. Also, you can’t easily run Tailscale alongside a regular VPN like Proton or Mullvad. Of course, you have to pay for the domain name and setting up a reverse proxy and appropriate DNS forwarding rules are not trivial tasks.

    • ohshit604@lemmy.halstead.hostEnglish
      1·
      2 months ago

      As in, host Jellyfin? Docker and or Podman, containerization is quite neat to learn as you can host a multitude of applications over your network.

    • jif@piefed.caEnglish
      7·
      2 months ago

      Try Findroid. I found it to be a better overall experience.

      • phx@lemmy.worldEnglish
        11·
        2 months ago

        Or if just looking for a solution too music, Finamp is pretty good as well

        • moopet@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
          4·
          2 months ago

          I’ve been using Jellyfin for years, on different hosts. Music has never worked on any of my devices - there’s a bug where you try to play a track and it ignores you and plays the first track off the album instead. You can literally never play anything after that. To be fair, I haven’t tested this in six months, but it was a consistent bug for years before that and I’ve tried every client under the sun. Nowadays I use Jellyfin for video and Navidrome for audio instead and it’s all good.

    • mybuttnolie@sopuli.xyzEnglish
      2·
      2 months ago

      i wish they’d fix the black screen and not returning to home after episode ends issue/feature, and also not being able to scroll after manually returning home. can’t use old enough versions anymore where it still worked right (2023 versions and older i think)

  • SailorFuzz@lemmy.worldEnglish
    8·
    2 months ago

    I really just want the fireTV app of Jellyfin to not be so dogshit.

    I got tons of cool plug-ins running on my server that work fine via desktop/mobile… but access the server using the FireTv app and you’d never know. No mediabar enhanced, no seasonal, no achievements or local ratings…

    • Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafeEnglish
      11·
      2 months ago

      You should see the Tizen version…

      Though neither are made by the Jellyfin team and they’re both dealing with the constraints of the underlying dogshit hardware/software

    • Imaginary_Stand4909@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
      3·
      2 months ago

      Idk if Wholphin will fully fit your needs, but that’s what I use on my FireTV and we love it. It looks sleek as hell and has sone plugins like Serr requests. Weirdly though, it takes longer to load an ep on there compared to my laptop or phone.

  • srasmus@slrpnk.netEnglish
    7·
    2 months ago

    Are there different hardware requirements? I’m running on a raspberry pi 4, and as soon as it tries to load my movies the entire server crashes. This happened with the first release candidate, but seems to still be happening.