There is this political maneuver that is being embraced by DSA politicians that is preparing for the inevitable right wing anti Zionist candidate (like Tucker Carlson).
They seem to be attempting to move to the “we want to understand and listen to everyone”. It’s a fucking trap and will be absolutely destroyed by the “what’s going on?” Propaganda from Tucker and Candice.
It’s liberalism to the core and it will be seen as weak political pandering in a 2028 world in which Americans are blaming Israel entirely for the material decline.
The answer is NOT to talk to Zionist. The answer is to truly connect the Zionist interest to the interest of our ruling capitalist class. Fuck listening to Zionist. I’m sorry, you’re not reaching out to the Jewish community.
The American Jewish community is disconnecting itself from Israel more and more each day. Especially among the younger generation. You LEAD this change. You don’t follow it.
Disconnect Jewish identity from Zionism. Ignore the Jewish Zionist saying they “don’t feel heard”. Fuck them. They are Nazis the same as the Christian Zionist. Stop treating a Jewish Zionist as something special that you don’t do for the larger population of Christian Zionist. Stop treating them with kiddie gloves.
Disconnect from Zionist. They are modern day Nazis.
Fight the right on the material concerns of the working class. Fight the Tuckers on their class interest. Don’t make the 2028 election about the US being “controlled by Israel”. We will lose that fight. We will lose because we are not addressing the full contradictions of capitalism. And the far right is significantly better at lying to avoid contradictions. We can’t do that.
If we are going to win we HAVE to abandon this liberal idealism around “hearing people” that are our enemies. Fuck Zionist.
To be clear, this is not DSAs line, these are Democrat acting opportunistically within the electoralist faction of DSA.
Edit: She has made a statement saying she mispoke
I fumbled this line, plane and simple. To be clear, my foreign policy priority is ending Israel’s occupation, apartheid, and genocide in Palestine. I also reject the notion that anti-Zionism is antisemitism, and it’s important that we distinguish the two in order to combat actual antisemitism. I have always been opposed to any form of ethno-supremacy, and I refuse to vote for any of our tax dollars to go to any government that discriminates on that basis. I was being asked about rising antisemitism in this interview, and I was trying to say that my concern is while voters across the political spectrum wake up to Israel’s atrocities and our government’s complicity in it, the Democratic Party is failing to meet this moment. And when the Party refuses to lead morally on this issue, they are letting antisemites on the right co-opt the movement for Palestinian liberation while giving fodder to AIPAC talking points. But Sana is right, a movement for liberation must center the Palestinians being oppressed, occupied, and systematically exterminated — and the islamophobia and anti-Palestinian racism used to justify genocide is too often ignored. source
Thank you for her statement on it. I still get red flags from it though and will continue to push politicians to the left.
My position is that all people that still proclaim they are Zionist or “willing to speak with Zionist” should be viewed the same as we have, historically at least, viewed Nazis. They should be not be a part of any political conversation. And anyone that attempts to connect broadly the “concerns” of Jewish Americans with Israel should be condemned and removed from political office. And this goes for Jewish Americans that use their Jewish identity as a shield to support Israel. Though it is often most used by Christian Zionist.
I am willing to “talk with” people that do not have this hard of a stance. I am not willing to talk with people that proclaim they are Zionist or “liberal zionist” or whatever. There is no more discussion to be had with them that does not just attempt to keep their ideas of Jewish supremacy alive and normalized.
We are not at that point yet. I realize that. But, until we are, I will continue to unapologetically criticize anyone that yeilds any ground to these Zionist framing or normalizations. This means I’ll criticize “good people” sometimes and that is entirely fine.
BTW, goatskin gloves are the best work gloves. Thin goatskin gloves last far longer than thick cowhide gloves. Those goats have really tough skin. They are well worth the extra cost.
They are also supposed to contain natural lanolin, which makes your skin softer. I never really noticed that making a difference. Probably just a marketing ploy to get women to buy them.
When I started studying as a cabinetmaker I was warned that gloves could get caught in the machines and now 20 years later my hands are just very callused and I rarely see a reason to wear gloves at all. Although last year when I was pruning rose bushes I definitely got properly stabbed and saw a reason to wear gloves.
There is this political maneuver that is being embraced by DSA politicians that is preparing for the inevitable right wing anti Zionist candidate (like Tucker Carlson).
They seem to be attempting to move to the “we want to understand and listen to everyone”. It’s a fucking trap and will be absolutely destroyed by the “what’s going on?” Propaganda from Tucker and Candice.
It’s liberalism to the core and it will be seen as weak political pandering in a 2028 world in which Americans are blaming Israel entirely for the material decline.
The answer is NOT to talk to Zionist. The answer is to truly connect the Zionist interest to the interest of our ruling capitalist class. Fuck listening to Zionist. I’m sorry, you’re not reaching out to the Jewish community.
The American Jewish community is disconnecting itself from Israel more and more each day. Especially among the younger generation. You LEAD this change. You don’t follow it.
Disconnect Jewish identity from Zionism. Ignore the Jewish Zionist saying they “don’t feel heard”. Fuck them. They are Nazis the same as the Christian Zionist. Stop treating a Jewish Zionist as something special that you don’t do for the larger population of Christian Zionist. Stop treating them with kiddie gloves.
Disconnect from Zionist. They are modern day Nazis.
Fight the right on the material concerns of the working class. Fight the Tuckers on their class interest. Don’t make the 2028 election about the US being “controlled by Israel”. We will lose that fight. We will lose because we are not addressing the full contradictions of capitalism. And the far right is significantly better at lying to avoid contradictions. We can’t do that.
If we are going to win we HAVE to abandon this liberal idealism around “hearing people” that are our enemies. Fuck Zionist.
To be clear, this is not DSAs line, these are Democrat acting opportunistically within the electoralist faction of DSA.
Edit: She has made a statement saying she mispoke
Thank you for her statement on it. I still get red flags from it though and will continue to push politicians to the left.
My position is that all people that still proclaim they are Zionist or “willing to speak with Zionist” should be viewed the same as we have, historically at least, viewed Nazis. They should be not be a part of any political conversation. And anyone that attempts to connect broadly the “concerns” of Jewish Americans with Israel should be condemned and removed from political office. And this goes for Jewish Americans that use their Jewish identity as a shield to support Israel. Though it is often most used by Christian Zionist.
I am willing to “talk with” people that do not have this hard of a stance. I am not willing to talk with people that proclaim they are Zionist or “liberal zionist” or whatever. There is no more discussion to be had with them that does not just attempt to keep their ideas of Jewish supremacy alive and normalized.
We are not at that point yet. I realize that. But, until we are, I will continue to unapologetically criticize anyone that yeilds any ground to these Zionist framing or normalizations. This means I’ll criticize “good people” sometimes and that is entirely fine.
*kid gloves
As in gloves made of kid leather.
Not kiddie gloves.
BTW, goatskin gloves are the best work gloves. Thin goatskin gloves last far longer than thick cowhide gloves. Those goats have really tough skin. They are well worth the extra cost.
They are also supposed to contain natural lanolin, which makes your skin softer. I never really noticed that making a difference. Probably just a marketing ploy to get women to buy them.
You know, I never really wear gloves when I work so I never really looked into it, but you made me want to buy a good pair of goat skin gloves!
I always wear work gloves in the yard. Too many ways to get cut, stabbed, scraped, splintered, burned, etc.
When I started studying as a cabinetmaker I was warned that gloves could get caught in the machines and now 20 years later my hands are just very callused and I rarely see a reason to wear gloves at all. Although last year when I was pruning rose bushes I definitely got properly stabbed and saw a reason to wear gloves.
I can hear it already “now is the time for healing, we need to reach across the fence and unify etc” we all know this is how it always ends