For those who aren’t familiar with the term, it means believing something that probably shouldn’t be believed, or being influenced to believe something that’s not necessarily in your best interests.

  • TronBronson@lemmy.world
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    I believed the USA was a liberal democracy full of concerned citizens. I also had faith in the financial system at one point!

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    If you work hard, are honest, and moral, you will get ahead in life.

    It was embarrassingly late in life before I realized how much of a farce that was.

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    There was a time I actually thought that Elon Musk wanted to help save the planet by making electric cars mainstream to displace fossil fuel vehicles, and by helping humanity return to space simply for the science and exploration value.

    Musk’s “some kind of pedo guy” comment about the diver that dismissed Musk’s efforts with the cave children was the first WTF moment, but I wrote that off has him just having a bad day as he apologized later. Musk fighting the COVID lockdown was also more evidence that concerned me. This was all before Elon’s embrace of trump and GOP Nazism, and long before Elon’s double Nazi salute on national television.

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      I tend to think at some point that was true, that Tesla was about saving the planet and SpaceX was about making humanity multiplanetary.

      It could be he was always a wretched creep and just really good at hiding it, but it seems to me that the wealth and power just ruined him. He wouldn’t be the first person to fall in that trap.

      I’ll append my confession here.

      I supported Ron Paul once upon a time. The non-interventionism appealed to me in the context of the Iraq war in particular, and the rights-based libertarian philosophy seemed sound. I was young.

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        We must be twins!

        Elon is a classic tale of surrounding oneself with sycophants and descending into the madness of their own bullshit. I think he started with pure-ish intentions.

        I was a registered libertarian and a Ron Paul disciple. Easy trap to fall into as a relatively privileged white guy. Every self-described libertarian I meet now makes me ashamed of who I was then.

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      I always knew he was an arsehole, but I thought he was at least a like minded arsehole, when it came to saving the planet.

      The trapped kids incident also the first proper crack I noticed in his image. Now, I wouldn’t touch anything of his with a 40’ pole.

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      You couldn’t tell he was a maniac grifter? The fact that his money comes from family mines in South Africa and he didn’t renounce it but built upon it didn’t let you know he was a villain? 😕

      PS: Weird post to downdoot. Explain yourselves, you cowards, lol.

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        I had no idea he came from SA with wealth from mining until after I figured out he was full of shit and and absolute dickhead, only after that did I realize where it all started.

        So don’t blame people for not knowing what you knew at the time.

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          First of all, where’s the blame? Don’t get too emotional on me. Secondly, that’s like the easiest and quickest Google research you could’ve done, lol. Finally, does anyone who isn’t in the spectrum even have to Google anything related to him? The insanity and depravity was palpable, just like with Milei and Trump and the others. But if you are, then the little Google search would be absolutely necessary before you start praising him as if he’s some messiah and not just another selfish capitalist amoral prick. Haven’t y’all had enough experience with these folks to recognise it?!

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            This is where you put the blame in your comment:

            The fact that his money comes from family mines in South Africa and he didn’t renounce it but built upon it didn’t let you know he was a villain?

            This isn’t even general knowledge these days, and has only started spreading in the last few years, you acted as if everyone knew it from day one.

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            8 months ago

            Hang on, before I reply I have to research whether any people in this thread bought their computer with money earned through slavery.

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    Divisive propaganda got me to vote for Jill Stein in 2016. I would still assert that Clinton was an awful candidate, but I should have voted for her.