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    why do you keep posting these when people obviously do not want them here?

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      There are some users who seem to be here to collect as many downvotes as possible, and I do not understand it at all. You can’t turn in downvotes for prizes? They don’t have market value?

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      Did I miss some memo or something? Are we mad at this style of comic right now for some reason?

      I’ve got my pitchfork downvote ready, just give me a good reason 👍

      I honestly don’t see what’s wrong with this particular comic. It’s just a silly comic about a common problem with “free” games.

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        felix posts only comics from this author, who seems to have some rather unsavoury opinions on women and minorities.

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          Are people complaining about the actual submitted content in the comics or just about the author’s personal views? I mean, if it’s the content in the comics, I…guess I could understand having a !sexycomics@lemmy.world or something if some people consider the above to have too much skin — I don’t think I’d call it NSFW. It doesn’t bother me, personally.

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            well, sometimes. his views definitely bleed through. flipping through 20-30 pages on his site was enough for me to get the picture.

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              checks the sidebar

              I mean, the community rules do explicitly permit NSFW comics (it does say that they should be flagged NSFW, which this isn’t).

              • Any comic that would qualify as raunchy, lewd, or otherwise draw unwanted attention by nosy coworkers, spouses, or family members should be tagged as NSFW.

              I just…I kinda have a hard time looking at that and saying that someone would get in trouble over viewing it at work, and in any event, I don’t think that “sexed up” is inappropriate, given the rules that the mods have written; they’re clearly fine with lewd material.

              From what I’ve seen, the series constantly has fan service, but I must say that I really don’t hold with trying to drive the guy off for posting them.

              That being said, like I said, if there are enough people who enjoy them and enough people who are upset about them, maybe doing a new community would make sense.

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                He sometimes veers into trans hates and misogynistic humor. It’s not really about the sexy drawings.

                Personally, I don’t think we should platform authors that dip their feet in hate since it does drive traffic to their website.

                The content that is posted here from him is mostly boring and trite, so there’s not much lost even if the specific comic itself isn’t breaking any rules. It feels like an easy choice to make, even more so when it seems the poster just shares it to cause drama. Petty behavior and all.

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            yeah there’s been links in the other threads on this comm. personally i went through some of his comics on his site and there is 1) a lot of t’n’a (which i’m all for tbh, it just gets old if it’s shown as “normalcy”) and 2) every type of character the author doesn’t like (feminists, models, vegans, specifically male homosexuals…) are drawn like weird charicatures.

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        If we block them we don’t see them and can’t downvote them, which is a tacit acceptance that these kinds of demeaning misogynistic comics are acceptable. They are not acceptable. I’m doing my very small part to make this place feel a little safer for others by downvoting instead of simply ignoring and accepting the hurtful things shared by you and your ignorant and disgusting ilk.

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        it was a genuine question. i’m personally ambivalent the comic but apparently the author is a questionable character and if that makes people uncomfortable i’m for not posting them.

        like, this is a small space. we’re building community. trying to actively fight against that seems antithetical to the idea of lemmy.

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          Mine is also a genuine question. You don’t like it? Block it, you won’t see it.

          Unless of course your aim is to dictate other people what they are able to see.

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            i answered in the previous post: i personally don’t mind it but i care about making people feel safe in this space. now you answer me.

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              I feel like we just need to split comics. Whole point of lemmy is to basically allow us to fragment. so mods of world comics don’t care, why not pick an instance make a comic strips with a banned author list. If more people would like to be free of comics from unsavory authors they can move there.

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                His point (and point of people like him) isn’t to just not see certain comics as for this they would use a simple “block” button. Their point is to dictate to other people what they can see.

                Funnily enough, all these people moaning are usually the same who pretty much never contribute any strips to this community.

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                  It’s not a block button. It’s a mute button. It means that the user who is muted can still see and interact with the posts and comments of the user who muted them. But the user who muted them can’t see or interact with the user they muted.

                  A block would work the way it does on places like Tumblr where regardless of who blocks who they accounts can no longer interact or see each other.

                  This is problematic specifically because I don’t trust you (or most people) to no abuse this work around. I don’t trust you specifically because you could have been blocking people who don’t like the content you post this whole time and yet here you are.

                  I also feel like given your reaction to things when proof has been provided that you don’t argue in good faith. That’s based on reading your comments just in this thread.

                  I don’t care if they ban you or don’t. I do care that the comics you post are having a detrimental effect on the community and you don’t seem to care about that. If you’re not here to build the community then I question your motives.

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                  No there’s a valid point to not want to be a part of a community that platforms the individuals. and I can certainly see a valid point in why blocking doesn’t solve it. 1. different users post from the artists, it’s not going to be met at an individual level.

                  IMO it should be a community level decision.

                  Though that’s why I still hold to the suggestion that this scism is large enough that a community should be made. Because I can agree with the concept, if the mods in a community don’t agree, making a new community is a solution

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        Why don’t the mods ban this shit already. This community is proving to be disgusting if this is how they plan on “moderating” it.

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      People downvoting these comics do not want to platform the comic author, who has expressed misogynistic and transphobic views, among others.

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        Have you actually witnessed an expression of such views? You see, in too many cases such accusations come from people who just saw themselves in the picture and didn’t like it. Extremely exaggerated and stretched accusations. Like the comics has a woman character who is doing something dumb and that of course means that the author is misogynistic.

        The amount of downvotes make me feel like it is some performance, not just random expression of people’s opinion.

        Something strange is happening.

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          Yes, I have. Credit to Lime! for putting this sampler together, I’m just pasting here for reference:

          this and this and this and this and this and this and this and this and this and this

          If you do not have an issue with those views, by all means vote the way you feel. However it should not be that surprising that they are unpopular views in this day and age, especially on a mostly left leaning service. The downvotes are not a “performance”.

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      Thank you. It appears to be a vocal group of people who mostly never contribute any comic strips but they just love creating a drama.

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    the mmo’s I did play were pretty good about giving enough to free to play players and most buy stuff being more cosmetic but every so often there were things that would get the community shouting pay to play and it was warranted. Honestly it was kinda pay or grind to play.