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      Dismissing: lacks object permanence.

      Embracing: optimizes render load.

      Have we considered I don’t have ADHD, just triple A blockbuster brain engine??

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        I think this has actually been a standard method of optimization for about as long as there’s been 3d games.

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    The one time I tried shrooms I died, then I saw everything I needed for what I was going through and woke up the next day after all the nightmares feeling at peace with life and had a new perspective. Kind of like a speed run midlife crisis. I wouldn’t do it again but I’m glad I did

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        fun(?) fact! ego death feels like death :D

        you know that thing people say about how everyone’s last thought is of their mother or their home?

        when i first took LSD i experienced an ego death, and just before fully letting go i thought to myself “how will i tell my mum i died?”

        it was, to put it blunt, quite fucking terrifying. thankfully i had enough logic in me to calm myself down and fully let go to experience it, after the you dies the world becomes so– fresh. i felt like an alien experiencing the Earth for the first time, there was no barrier between me and the world, because for a few hours there was no “me”

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          Damn that must be scary in the moment, but also what an interesting experience, was that feeling of seeing the world with a new perspective temporary or do you feel it left any lasting impact?

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            it was temporary but unforgettable

            it’d be impossible to live like that, but for a while it felt like being born again

            and it definitely left a lasting impact on me, everything was so easily beautiful. usually you have to look to notice the beauty, but then it was all apparent and awe-inspiring, i was thinking about the concepts of hospitality and langauge, as well as look at the setting sunlight dancing in the window

            i could write a book attempting to describe that evening, and even then it wouldn’t be a perfect description, it’s something you have to experience

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      bad trips can be really really enlightening. i got the cliché “i am so tiny and the universe is so big” and it changed the way i think about things on a fundamental level.

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      Same thing with me and LSD. It is insanely powerful when used therapeutically, however that is also why I don’t talk about it irl at-all. The short explanation is that I don’t believe many people can handle these things and come out with similar clarity.\

      If anyone is interested, please do as much research if you can. I would recommend James Fadiman’s Psychedelic Explorer’s Guide.

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      There’s a valuable lesson here, and it’s to avoid using comic strips to identify the mushrooms you should eat to trip.

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      He’s got the mushroom in his hand as well as a pipe and a tab, I think they’re just referring to psychs in general, but you’re right, maybe they should’ve put more of a brown mushroom

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      its also a deleriants, so it wont give you pleasant hallucinations. people try to do this with diphenhydramine too, but you would have to tak a ton of it.

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      Bullshit!

      Says who? I have done it both wet and dry many many times and never experienced that, and I’ve talked to people online about it a lot and nobody has mentioned that. So where are you getting this claim? I say that knowing that there are groups trying to make it illegal that have been spreading lies including that ibotenic acid causes brain bleeds based on a single discredited study repeated ad nauseam.

      You are on some Reefer Madness bullshit aren’t you? Admit it!

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        Maybe you are less susceptible to it, or are ingesting a variety more unique to your region, but nausea and diarrhea are extremely common side effects.

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          Throwing up not long after ingesting the tea is normal, yet you have no idea what you are talking about here.

          You are cooperating in a puritanical campaign to make this mushroom illegal, maybe you don’t realize that’s what you are doing, but that is going out right now. Stop it.

          You also have no idea what the fuck you’re talking about.

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            Dude, relax and go mushrooming. All I said is it gives you the shits and there are better substances.

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              They really jumping down your throat, huh? Iv never done the red ones with the white dots, but Iv done a few different types. Also Iv read about mushrooms, what may look the same aint always the same. And then the same shroom (or same looking shroom) from another region can be vastly different.

              And then yes we as people will react different than another person might react to the same shroom.

              Anywhoots.

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      I want a source for that disparaging comment which is incorrect. Also it’s not a psychedelic and the fact that you described it as such destroys your credibility. You have no idea what you were talking about and are repeating puritanical propaganda.

      For shame. Maybe you should go talk about the reefers online.

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        Firstly, the comic above uses the word psychedelic while showing an Amanita Muscaria. I never called it that but honestly, I’m not an expert and don’t know the technical definitions of that type of thing, I’m just a guy that likes mushrooms.

        Outside of my personal experience of having about 30 minutes of fun followed by 6 hours of not fun, here is the first result I got when searching for ‘amanita muscaria side effects’

        Emerging Risks of Amanita Muscaria: Case Reports on Increasing Consumption and Health Risks

        People can have all sorts of different reactions to mushrooms, like I’ve never died from eating raw false morels, but others have.

        Do you have a souce that says Amanita Muscaria doesn’t give most people nausea and diarrhea?

        I have heard however that the juice produced from dehydration has a lot less unwanted side effects, but I didn’t bother to test that myself.

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    It’s more “I want to continue to hallucinate in the super useful way that all humans normally do, and not fuck up my brain so that useful hallucination of reality gets knocked out of whack.”

    A series of still images, if the frame rate is fast enough, appears to us as smooth motion. Our eye can only focus on a tiny spot at any given time, but our brain fills in the rest of the visual field as if it’s high res based on the last time we glanced somewhere, some extrapolation and interpolation, etc. We’re somehow able to pull the sound of someone’s voice out of a crowd of noises and ignore all the irrelevant sounds to hear what someone’s saying. And then these sounds get somehow directly translated to words and concepts in our head. And if you’re looking at someone in the face as they’re talking, you can read emotions there, instead of just seeing a wrinkly slab of meat with some wet spheres near the top and some disgusting wet holes below. That’s all “hallucination” in some way. But, it’s all incredibly useful.

    I know that 99% of the time if someone takes hallucinogens they come back to reality just fine. Sometimes the trip even makes them feel better. But, is it really worth messing with your brain’s delicate and super useful hallucination of the world around you?

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      not really 99%, more 99.9%

      the only time when you as a person should never take psychadelics is when you have a pychoaffective disorder (or a history of it in your family) as it can trigger psychosis

      other dangers come from heavy abuse of the substances, nothing you can do accidentally (psychadelics are non-addictive chemically speaking, but we humans can abuse anything so there’s been cases of it) or taking the substances when you’re depressed or anxious (can turn into a bad trip, cure you of those in a day, or just be a normal trip, it’s a gamble)

      99.9% of the time people who take psychadelics come back to normal after the effects wear off. even bad trips can be beneficial. the normal becomes broader, and many lessons are learnt, the useful hallucinations gain more meaning. i often compare psychadelic trips to having a mirror put in front of yourself and being forced to look at it for hours, now - do you like what you see?

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        I thought such disorders were much more frequent in the human population than 0.1%

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          i also narrowed down my guesstimation to only include those interested in taking psychadelics

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      Right, and a single marijuana cigarette will drive you to a murderous rape rampage of white women (or whatever else American bullshit propaganda you want to peddle today)…

      I know that 99% of the time if someone takes hallucinogens they come back to reality just fine.

      “I know that 99% of the time someone masturbates they don’t go blind” - that’s the level of nonsense you’re spouting…

      Just turn on your brain for a second. Psychedelics have been legal/decriminalised in some countries for years or decades. You’re saying 1 in a 100 trips leaves you insane. Try to make sense of those two statements and support it with literally any shred of data from the last couple of decades.

      All of the traditional psychedelics are significantly healthier for your brain than having a few drinks. One can literally regrow neurons, the other kills them.

      Sometimes the trip even makes them feel better. But, is it really worth messing with your brain’s delicate and super useful hallucination of the world around you?

      And sometimes it can cure serious psychological conditions, autoimmune disease, allergies, and a host of other issues.

      There’s a very good reason an increasing number of places are legalising them for therapeutic use.

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      Over time, psychedelics tend to clean off the lenses, so to speak, making the “useful hallucination” more accurate and reliable.

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      I dunno if I’d call this hallucination, although I get what you’re saying and I agree with you! But wouldn’t “interpretation” be a more apt description?

      If someone is seeing a message out of this very text, rather than the strict “material reality” of each individual letter just being an arbitrary glyhph, or each pixel, or each little diode or electron forming those pixels…

      …to call this miraculous level of ascribing meaning “hallucinating” seems a disservice right?

      Your comment just brought me a lot of wonder and awe, because you’re right, our brains’ wiring to tell stories and weave concepts and interpret the world around us in a way that’s useful, and beautiful, is a wonderful part of being alive and setting us apart from mere machines, rather than simply a feed of raw unfiltered data input from the world around us “as it is.”

      Truly marvelous. :D

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    The podcast “You Made It Weird,” with Pete Holmes is great. He has a lot of smart and funny people on, and the pattern is usually to start with “What’s going on with you? What are you working on? What makes you laugh?” for the first two thirds of a given episode, and then the last third is stuff like “Do you believe there is a purpose to life? Have you ever seen a ghost? Have you ever tried psychedelics?” Pete is clearly on his own spiritual journey and has a lot of heavy stuff to talk about and share, and he makes for a great conversation.

    Two highlights were when Reggie Watts talked about going on a trip in a bathroom where he traveled to a parallel universe and met with a sentient planet, and when Judd Apatow talked about how ayahuasca brought him into a meeting with the embodiment of his childhood self.

    I don’t necessarily want to get into psychedelics, but it’s a very interesting topic of conversation, if the person is smart enough to ask and answer intelligent questions.

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    What an apt comic. The first time I tried mushrooms I came to the conclusion we are essentially peeking through the keyhole of a door trying to understand an environment we can’t even be sure is limited to the ‘other side’.

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    I really object to this idea that hallucinogens unlock some kind of higher plane of existence that can’t be experienced by people who don’t do these drugs.

    If it were true that people who did hallucinogens did gain some kind of additional knowledge why is it they aren’t achieving things at some obviously higher rate?

    If you want to use recreational or therapeutic drugs be my guest, just don’t come back telling me you’ve uncovered the secrets to the universe…

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      What in the world…

      They literally are tho. lol. What a wild take

      “You see, I think drugs have done some good things for us. I really do. And if you don’t believe drugs have done good things for us, do me a favor. Go home tonight. Take all your albums, all your tapes and all your CDs and burn them. 'Cause you know what, the musicians that made all that great music that’s enhanced your lives throughout the years were rrreal fucking high on drugs. The Beatles were so fucking high they let Ringo sing a few tunes.”

      Bill Hicks

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    This is why when I want to cross a busy road I just pretend reality isn’t real, close my eyes, and cross the road. Can’t get hit by cars if I don’t accept that they are there.

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      This is just a misinterpretation. Things are there anyway but we filter it out in a way our brain can handle.

      Think of it as a very, veeeeery strong Instagram filter.

      Human Pov

      ab14srqg-2279219389

      Other Pov

      202tt148

      Higher dimensions Pov

      139333979-cosmic-horror-3126761043

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    It’s wild how conservative and square the community is here.

    Thanks for posting the comic! It’s neat

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    I really didn’t like the personality changes I saw in others after taking LSD, that’s why I have no interest in psychedelics.

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      Admittedly I haven’t done a lot of deep diving on it, but what kinds of personality changes did you observe? I haven’t heard a lot of testimony like this around psychedelics. Mostly just people praising them.

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        Weeks after taking them they were still gushing how beautiful this and that treeline was. I don’t remember more, sorry ^^

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          Oh, they just…saw more beauty and wonder in things most folks consider ordinary? That doesn’t sound so bad, actually. XD

          I don’t remember more, sorry ^^

          Haha all good. Thanks for replying. :)

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      i always saw the last sequence as an interpretation of what happened by our limited consciousnesses, and definitely inspired by psychadelics, no way in hell it wasn’t

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    IDC what y’all say. I like this comic. I liked doing psychedelics in college. I may do more eventually…

    YAY DRUGS!