Did trump just confuse a possessive s for a plural s?
It happens to people and I don’t know why
Once again. Companies do NOT pay tariffs. They pass on those costs of those tariffs to their customers. YOU are gonna pay that extra 25% not Apple.
Still there is another side of it that also interesting. These companies has done their calculations so the cost of the product is perfect. Increasing that price means less people will buy the product.
Unless the companies eat the tariffs. But greedy companies will pass them on
Is it only tariff costs that are passed on to employees and customers or are all corporate tax costs passed on to employees and customers?
how long is it going to take, before you realize its too late? if they didn’t realize by now, they aren’t going to
This isn’t about making Apple make iPhones in the US. This is a 25% tax on everyday Americans that the fascists will blame on Apple for not making iPhones in the US and use to give tax breaks to the rich. Trump and his cabal are reverse Robin Hooding the American people and 70 million of them are lining up to lick his boots for it.
The US is turning into my games of stellaris a little bit more everyday. Oh boy you sure dont want to be in my games of stellaris guys.
You know that is somewhat true. What everyone could see when I was kid has come to pass. The people like trump and the actual billionaires in this country sold us out then. They sold us out by moving all the manufacturing offshore. Now these same greedy trash humans want all that back since they have realized that the ability to manufactures products was the United States real power. They delivered millions of my parents generation into poverty and wage slavery to make a buck by moving the job overseas. Now these horrible people and their followers are doing the same thing to try to get it back. They don’t understand nor do they care about the real people in this country. Only about themselves.
Their followers who are not profiting from this must be really, really stupid.
The reason why manufacturing was moved offshore was because it cost more money to produce the goods in the states and they had to adhere to us regulation. Products are cheap because they’re build offshore. No one actually wants the factory jobs back in the states because they’ll be too expensive to produce, and a lot of the jobs will be done by bots anyway. If the iPhone was the be built in the states it would cost $3.5k. Billionaires want a peasant class. They’re envious of China - lots of low educated people earning nothing working long hours. Billionaires have low self esteem.
Yes of course it was because of money. They couldn’t see it then and they cant see it now.
Their followers who are not profiting from this must be really, really stupid.
And they’re the ‘good’ ones!
People are looking to much into his Tax Bill and Crypto Dinners. They can’t pass legislation secretly in the dead of night if the media and public aren’t distracted by bullshit.
It hasn’t been half a year yet and the firehouse of chaos that is Trump is impossible to keep up with.
CSJDIA.
He still has absolutely no clue how tariffs work. Amazing for someone who throws them left and right without thinking. Although the latter might explain it.
I wonder if he knows apple simply can not comply with this. Apple doesn’t know how to make iPhones (at the scale and rate needed) and no one in the US does either.
RIP
It’s coming true.
And again “tariff must be paid by Apple” really shows that he still has no idea how they work.
Tbf the labor will be done by the minorities and undesirables they will keep throwing in prison without due process
Well, technically, any kind of tariff added to the import is always paid by Apple, who else would pay it? Some unrelated company? A foreign country?
They will simply increase the price by an amount that will keep them making the same amount of money. The main problem is that because they like to do a round price worldwide, we European we’ll pay more too, so they can make more money. Assholes
Then don’t buy it duh.
If Apple can push the price further into the thousands won’t Samsung, etc follow anyway?
People thought a phone that was $1000 would never sell, Apple came out with the pro models and now here we are with the high end models all being a thousand plus.
Yup non tarrifed goods go up too
The down voters don’t appear to agree 😂
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iPhones not iPhone’s… Who let this idiot be in charge of anybody? Did he even go to school?
& Just that entire sentence is atrociously bad
Thank your for your attention to this matter!€
LMFAO it’s the entire fucking tweet!! Thank your for your… omg you are the president of the united states get grammarly or something…you sound even dumber than the people who voted for you…
What a fucking idiot
you fucking idiot, it’s NEVER EVER EVER coming to the US.
NEVER.
a 25% increase in cost is still MUCH more preferable to bringing all of that shit to the US. probably by orders of magnitude. can you even fathom (of course you can’t) what you would need to do to have a 100% American iphone?
let’s say you’re bringing the iphone manufacturing plant to the US. let’s even assume this move is subsidized so the new factory is going to cost only time.
the iphone isn’t put together from mere atoms. parts of it need to be manufactured first. there’s the screen, the glass, the aluminum case, several cameras, the battery, the ram, the storage, the CPU, the GPU, the receiver, accelerometer, gyroscope, etc etc… how much of that shit do you think is made in the USA?
so there’s tariffs an all of that. or to avoid them you need to make several new factories, and have other companies that provide these things also move their factories… and these factories don’t just have people create electronics by hand. you need machines. where do you think those are made? who makes them? so now you need the manufacturers of manufacturing robots to move their factories to the US.
and all these factories now employ people with much higher salaries.
all in all, a move like that would halt production for years and when it comes back every iphone would probably cost $47000.
We don’t even have silicon availability. I don’t mean chips or printed boards, I mean processed quarts crushed into powder.
We would have to start opening strip mines and building massive furnaces and crushers and expanding railways. It’s just not feasible.
But we can just import some of the things we need as we build up the more valuable end of supply chains. I’m sure they’ve thought of that and there are no tariffs impeding those prerequisites, right? Right?
Most of the Iphone is not Chinese, the screens are made by Samsung in Korea, and the chips are from Taiwan. Only the fiddly final assembly is done in China.
But he wants it all American. Not just non-Chinese.
this is not about china
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Bro really went off on him…
John Oliver did a segment on this about a month ago, but yeah, you just nailed it.
damn it’s been a while since I’ve watched him. it’s just all been current events lately and even though I’m keeping up with the news, i couldn’t watch him because the way his show covers things usually make things much more depressing. I’ve instead been venting here and shit. I’m gonna have to catch up though eventually, it’s still very informative.
Nah I’m with you. I loved him back in the TDS days but over time his show started to get stale, to me
i don’t think it’s stale just to be clear, bad things are just happening too fast. there’s nothing TDS can do about it really.
Fair, I just stopped liking his show for some reason. I was pretty happy that Jon Stewart came back though
That McGee book is pretty startling. $55B USD per year for how many years to develop plant and expertise in China over the past decade or two and that’s going to be reversed how exactly?
I mean, if the US can swing it, good for them, but it’s a bit like asking parents to produce Usain Bolt immediately or pay 25% higher income tax.
Plus a consistent supportive economic policy. I haven’t read the book to know what’s included in that $55B, but I know it’s been a long term effort and no business will try to build such capability in chaos and personality cults.
Republicans talk about being best for business is sort of like their “family values”: mostly talk, mostly opposite
And they’d still need to maintain their non-US factories due to the retaliatory tariffs many countries are putting on US products.
Failed business man telling people how to run their businesses. I’ve got an idea about how to make American manufacturing cheaper universal healthcare.
You can know the impact of what building in the US would be by looking at Purism. They sell a Linux phone for $800. If you want the same phone built in the US, they charge $2000.
This is actually a real socialist or even communist policy. The State controlling the businesses.
It is authoritarian. Communist system devolve to authoritarianism because it is a natural progression (easy to do). Socialists can, but a good democratic political structure makes it harder.
Apparently capitalist systems devolve into authoritarianism; as evidenced by living in 2025.
Don’t tell all the tankies.
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So, socialism doesn’t exist according to your definition since nowhere on this planet workers control shit.
Ask former Soviet workers, Chinese workers, Cuban workers, North Korean workers and Vietnamese workers how much control on production they have.
Sure thing Cap’n - first thing in the morning I’ll be going around knocking on doors to try to find Soviet, Chinese and Cuban workers to ask them about their opinions.
Grow up, but read a book or two first.
I’ve been to China. I’ve been to Cuba. Have you?
Tim Apple could just buy him a fucking plane and be done with it. And that would open up some interesting opportunities, nahmean?
It’s what I’d do if I were an ambitious, resource hoarding, ass pimple billionaire.
It’s obvious the way to Trump’s heart is to tell him he’s pretty and give him something .
