• dandi8@fedia.io
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    Couldn’t he have created the world in a way where all that is not necessary? Or one where there would be no bad choices?

    Seems kinda evil on his part to design for the option of evil.

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      You don’t have to agree with the poster but they already answered that. There can be no acceptance without the ability to reject. Consent is meaningless without the capacity for dissent. Theodicy is a different matter.

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        There can be no acceptance without the ability to reject. Consent is meaningless without the capacity for dissent.

        If god is all-powerful, then that is a choice, not a natural restriction.

        So the answer is “because god is a jerk”?

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          If god is all powerful everything is a choice and there are no natural restrictions. Why an omniscient and supposedly loving deity created us to suffer and die is a question of theodicy and that is separate from the question of free will. Because god is a jerk is a likely and valid argument in this framework.

          A better example for the god is a jerk is Satan/Lucifer. Angels were not given free will and are servants of God by design. Still, Satan and his host were cast down and separated from the light of God’s love for their rebellion. Not being endowed with free will, the angels were apparently set up. In this situation, god made beings a certain way and then punished them for it while not giving them access to the tools of salvation (free will.)

        • “Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent.

          Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent.

          Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil?

          Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?”