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I look at it a bit differently. If I’m not important enough to my friends and family for them to install a easy to set up app, then I guess I never was that important to them
that was the line I ran with, got about 20% on board and that was good enough. Even my 82 yr old mother uses Signal to message me from her ipad
I agree with that stance but the harder part is for group conversations. There if you’re alone asking to migrate it’s much harder to convince the group to migrate, even if everyone individually is OK with using signal for 1-to-1 chats
Uncanny. All of that is really close to my experience (I like to think I’m not bitter and miserable but I suspect you’re not either - just introverted or on the spectrum).
If I’m not important enough to my friends and family for them to install a easy to set up app, then I guess I never was that important to them.
This is the standard argument and it’s powerful. Problem is, it can easily be turned around: “if I’m not important enough for them to install this completely ubiquitous app that everybody is already using, then obviously they don’t care much about me”. Conundrum! The only way to “win” here is by playing the ethics card. But alas that argument is just not well understood by most people.
“How can you tell if a Finn is an extrovert? While talking to you, he looks at your shoes and not his own.” Boom! You’ve probably heard it already.
depression
I’d be depressed if I had to endure the darkness of a Finnish winter.
They understood it, didn’t care. Meh. Fuck them, I guess lol.
TBH in principle I’m ready to give up on the Whatsapp boycott, it’s just so costly socially. I’ve lost out on a ton of connections at this point. Maybe nothing would have come of them but it’s such a high price to pay for a principle. And after all I use Telegram so I’m hardly pure.
BUT there’s a deal-breaker: WA demands physical access to a SIM, i.e. you can’t sign up with another number or even continue to use it without the ongoing SIM permission. This is just so outrageous (no other apps do it), and anyway I often change SIMs because of travel. The only workaround is to sign up for a business account (yes seriously) with a landline number, but if you try any funny business (like using a virtual landline number) you will get banned - and indeed I got banned! What a nightmare this damn app is. And also the dumbest name ever.
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that was the line I ran with, got about 20% on board and that was good enough. Even my 82 yr old mother uses Signal to message me from her ipad
I agree with that stance but the harder part is for group conversations. There if you’re alone asking to migrate it’s much harder to convince the group to migrate, even if everyone individually is OK with using signal for 1-to-1 chats
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Uncanny. All of that is really close to my experience (I like to think I’m not bitter and miserable but I suspect you’re not either - just introverted or on the spectrum).
This is the standard argument and it’s powerful. Problem is, it can easily be turned around: “if I’m not important enough for them to install this completely ubiquitous app that everybody is already using, then obviously they don’t care much about me”. Conundrum! The only way to “win” here is by playing the ethics card. But alas that argument is just not well understood by most people.
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“How can you tell if a Finn is an extrovert? While talking to you, he looks at your shoes and not his own.” Boom! You’ve probably heard it already.
I’d be depressed if I had to endure the darkness of a Finnish winter.
TBH in principle I’m ready to give up on the Whatsapp boycott, it’s just so costly socially. I’ve lost out on a ton of connections at this point. Maybe nothing would have come of them but it’s such a high price to pay for a principle. And after all I use Telegram so I’m hardly pure.
BUT there’s a deal-breaker: WA demands physical access to a SIM, i.e. you can’t sign up with another number or even continue to use it without the ongoing SIM permission. This is just so outrageous (no other apps do it), and anyway I often change SIMs because of travel. The only workaround is to sign up for a business account (yes seriously) with a landline number, but if you try any funny business (like using a virtual landline number) you will get banned - and indeed I got banned! What a nightmare this damn app is. And also the dumbest name ever.
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