Ah, AM4.
At 10 years old, it’s still the platform that keeps on giving.
And I’ll be running it for at least another ten…
Still runs everything well, so why not?
Economic growth. The government needs us consuming more so that they can create jobs, that’s the entire goal of inflation targeting.
Ha, that’s the funny part. They could have kept pumping out AM4 and taken market share slowly over time while making normal money, making normal jobs, but noooooo line must go up every quarter. So we instead got new products that are twice as much money (when ddr5 came out) that are less stable and not much better, and then to make line go up more fuck selling to people lets all do AI bullshit instead. And now we are in a world where now there is no current viable product, less jobs, and less money people are willing to spend on things that cost 5X what they should.
Youre complaining that they attempt to advance technology to acquire marketshare?
I’d agree that its an AI bubble, I can understand that at least. But those peoples money will be set on fire far more than you with a higher DDR price, as it was with the dotcom bubble; then you’ll get cheaper DDR.
Youre complaining that they attempt to advance technology to acquire marketshare?
Yes, it is a colossal industry wide issue of “needing” a new product in a rapidly decreasing window regardless of the utility of the product.
Chiplet designs and integrated GPU do benefit a lot from ram speed at least. So its speeding up CPU and GPU as well, providing a higher CPU core count and cheaper CPU.
This is cool. I just hope game developers also get on this bandwagon. We could use a 4-year moratorium on increasing minimum system requirements.
not gonna happen with GTA6 releasing soon
Is it?
I feel like I could have raised a family in the time between its supposed release date and now, and it’s still not out yet.
Rockstar are good at optimising their games. GTA V ran better than GTA IV on the same hardware. I wouldn’t be surprised if GTA VI runs well on the Steam Deck.
It won’t at all run on the deck. They blocked 5 from Linux a while ago.
Well, it did take a while for GTA IV to run well on anything, really…
it still doesn’t in some modern PCs lol
GTA IV was released for the same generation of consoles, and also there was only a 5 year difference between releases.
GTA V came out in 2013… almost 13 years ago and we are two generations ahead console-wise.
I’m just skeptical at the idea that GTA VI will run well on Steam Deck, maybe on the future Steam Machine
i think its a bit much to still ask the steam deck to run new releases well, especially with valves refusal to release performance updated version unless they can make major, foundational improvements such that it would basically be a steam deck 2
the steam deck is 4 years old, afterall, and it wasnt exactly a top end machine when it released… being little more than a slightly modified APU based system.
Doesn’t GTA IV famously soft lock if the frame rates too high because soon aspects of the animation cycle are blocked to frame rate?
The way things are going we’re going to need ddr3 mobos.
Been running an MSI motherboard, gpu, WD raptor, and haswell cpu since 2015-ish. My only regret is that I got the “K” version of the processor for overclocking, which lacks the VT-d extensions needed for virtualization goodies like gpu passthrough.
I still got mine with 32GB of ram. I will wait for it to appreciate in value and sell it to buy a house
So RAM is the name of the new crypto coin? 😅
Just bought an asus maximus vii with 16 gig ram and core i7 4790k used for 140 euro. it was top of the line in 2014, and will hopefully last the kid as first system until prices come down. but prices are ao shitty
Good choice. This is perfectly reasonable CPU
I look forward to it. Decent first system and later the joy of upgraded Hardware. Hope the kid likes it as well :)
No joke: I just built a low-end server based on DDR3. Got 32 GB for 40 EUR.
I just bought 16Gb of DDR3L laptop memory for a low-power NAS I’m building, and even that cost almost 40 bucks.
Except nobody manufactures it anymore.
DDR4 is cheaper than DDR5, sure, but retailers have jacked the price of both by the same percentage, so it’s not really all that much of a rescue.
I expect people will need a full mortgage to pay for DDR6 when it comes out next year.
noo, good cats are not for sale
This is universally true, so, it’s implied they are a bad cat unfortunately
Unless he’s some kind of purebred, you probably won’t even get enough for one stick.
That implies it’d even be available to consumers.
Or even be released in any form (I’m assuming here AI doesn’t use DDR memory but some oyher related type)
Fingers crossed that we might see HBM as system RAM finally.
Not sure if the AI side is any different, but all the data and compute servers I’ve built used DDR DIMMs, only they needed to be ECC to even POST.
If it was server hardware they probably needed more than just ECC. They were probably RDIMM or LRDIMM which have built in registers to handle addressing larger amounts of memory.
And they called me a madman for spending months tuning the CO of my 5800X3D to its limits and also OCing my 3200 mhz Crucial Memory to 3800 Mhz. It seems this setup will stay with me until DDR6 arrives. I hope the prices get back to normal by then.
“Rescue”
Lol. What is the rescue if even DDR4 explodes? What does this help?DDR4 is already ridiculously expensive, just not quite as bad as DDR5
And no where near as much capacity. It’s a pretty terrible alternative.
Fuck this I’m going back yo freedos.
Best games are DOS games bitches!!!
I know it’s not DOS per se but just getting into Caves of Qud and MAN I’m loving it.
I remember playing ASCII games as a kid, I gotta get back into it. There was a program or website where one could download community created ASCII games and I remember building one or two.
Doom Rogue Like.
Not sure if Jupiter Hell(successor by the creators) will run on dos though.
i thought ddr4 production was shutdown, are companies still making it or is this until that supply runs out too?
Unfortunately you can’t get X3D CPU for AM4 anymore.
You can, for $1000 plus by scalpers on ebay
