• Fedizen@lemmy.world
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    Goldilocks space is like “my breath immediately turns solid in the shade and my body is turning to charcoal in the direct sunlight”

    You need a giant buffer of atmosphere to help average the temperature a bit. Maybe some kind of large rock with a dense atmosphere?

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        A strong thaumic field slows down the sunlight too. Doesn’t change the heat but it’s nice to see sunrise pour across the landscape like honey

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        that’s not quite right. see that turtle has its own sun and moon chasing it around. and they did the math the sun and moon are superluminal bodies

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      The other option is a “barbeque roll” a favourite of sci-fi starships, from authors who have done some homework.

      You’re basically trying to balance half way up a waterfall.

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      Yes. Like all multipliers the heat of the sun requires not only itself the thing that which is acting but also that which is to be acted upon. If you are a handsome wet rock, the distance you are to the sun effects how your heat is multiplied.

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    This is not completely correct though. It is our atmosphere/albedo/geological and natural processes that help maintain consistently livable temperatures, not just living in the habitable zone. No atmosphere? We’d be like the Moon, where it is too hot in sunlight and too cold in shade despite being similarly far from the sun as Earth.

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      Also its not true that space is “very very cold”.

      If you are in space wearing space suite that doesn’t radiate heat properly, you could die from the excessive heat. Once dead your body stops producing heat and the existing heat eventually radiate away and your body freeze.

      Space is neither hot or cold because these are property of matter. Since space has very little atoms, it technically has no temperature.

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        Can’t ignore bosons; photon wavelength is a measure of temperature too.

        Space has a temperature, which is based on the average of incoming radiation through that space; i.e. the thermal equilibrium to emit as much energy as is absorbed by a theoretical perfectly thermally conductive black body at that point in space.

        Based off CMB radiation, space on average is a little over 2.7 kelvin. It’ll be hotter near stars, but the void dwarfs matter on a cosmic scale

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          TIL.

          I guess it depends on definition of the word “temperature”.

          I was referring to the classical definition

          In classical thermodynamics and kinetic theory, temperature reflects the average kinetic energy of the particles in a system, providing a quantitative measure of how energy is distributed among microscopic degrees of freedom.

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temperature

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    The dark side of your body in space is freezing cold while the light side gets hot. You really need to rotate to get that even crispy layer.

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    I know its memes, but the astronaut tim peake discussed the space suits on No Such Thing As A Fish where he said that the whole get-up is like 16+ layers thick, and the only heating inside is for your fingertips, so you dont lose fine motor function. He said you can be sitting working on a panel outside the station, with one hand facing the sun and one hand facing the shade, and the delta-T of your two hands could be something like 500°C.

    Maaaaadness! (It’s been a while since I listened to this episode, my memory of numbers could be skewed.)

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        Yeah, sorry. Its difference in temperature. I got delta-T in my head and blinkered in on either making a ‘triangle’ to denote delta or just write it out, instead of just saying temperature difference.

        Apologies.

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    It’s funny how something can be technically correct and still feel counterintuitive. Space really is extreme in every direction.